Porn

JB's picture
adrian's picture

You know how i feel about the subject.

If i'm not making it , i'm hoarding it.

oasisbabe's picture

Porn..well

Porn is ok as long as its tastefull.Thats what i think anyway.

Jillie's picture

I love pornography

And that's okay
I love pornography
God! I am gay

I've been in a poetic mood lately

JB's picture

Hoarding...

you gonna share Adrian?

adrian's picture

share the love

or atleast the good filth

darrenr's picture

porn

i think that its ok just as long as its not the stuff like snuff.i think every1should feel free to express themselves however they wish too and if porn is the way then great bt snuff is wrong as its takin sum1s life for a cheap thrill

Boygasm's picture

Bwahahah

Its cool, just as long the guys are good lookikng and not make gross face gesture.

DiamondDog's picture

There is nothing like a littl

There is nothing like a little late night nudity. As long as it's between cosenting adults, then by all means, bring it on.

Luke's picture

Mmmm...porn...

I love porn! The more tasteless and awfully done, the better! I find it both hilarious, and erotic, so I enjoy it doubly! It's just grand, any way you slice it. Also, badly written, extremely graphic slash fanfics amuse me beyond belief! No worries:)

-Luke

daharyn's picture

well, my mommy always told me

that I was a visual person. I like porn. Women-made porn is good and makes me feel all feministy, but the silly stuff for straight guys will do in a pinch.

~Linds

RoaG's picture

rofl

rofl

Dragon's picture

fanfics... mmmm good...

Oooohhh... fanfics... lovely NC-17 slash out there... that's as close to porn as I get... as Rachelle so kindly calls it, "Literature Porn" Hehehe... I got her addicted to femfic.com
muahahah... it's out to corrupt us all!!

transalex's picture

yummy fanfics...

heh yeah, fanfics are the best. some are awful, but some are the best writing i've ever seen. and yay for NC-17!! hehehe i wrote one that got rated that (by another site) high when i was underage. i loved being able to say i wrote something i was "too young" to read....

alex

"I'm never sure if I have gender dysphoria or species dysphoria. I often try to explain that I'm really a starfish trapped in a human body and I'm very new to your planet." ~ Patrick Califia

Rachelle is still Great's picture

*gasp*

You did not get me addicted! I can stop any time I want!

marcelle42's picture

Speaking of woman-made porn...

I'm a big fan of On Our Backs (made for lesbians by lesbians). Also, they have Nina Hartley doing advice... a registered nurse and porn star - that is exactly who I want giving me sex advice.

Also a big fan of slashfic... esp. Scully slash (god, I'm such a geek... but I love Gillian Anderson). Slashfic is totally my dirty little secret.

(And for anyone keeping track, yes, this is my first forum post on the new Oasis. Welcome back me!)

Karen

DaySleeper's picture

Haruka&Michiru Porno!

My mind IS porn! I have such a one-track mind. Whew... anyway, I'm a massive fan of WELL done Haruka and Michiru (hottest anime lesbian couple ever!) fanfiction. I think I have read ever one ever written. And does this make me a baaad person? I think not. Just a sex-starved teen. (Man, I'm warped. And I'm not really sex-starved.. okay...well maybe a little!)

TrueNorth's picture

Yay porn!

WEll no not really.. I used to look at that stuff alot.. then started to find it really boring.. so i stoped...

Now making it is another story... :P

morbid intentions 666's picture

uhh...sux

I think porn's a b!+(h! SRRY...but i think it justs makes guys horny & RAPE "innocent" girls(if any r left)...i no victims of this cause.M 1 of that..(dont ask!!!)m soooooo against it & want 2 end it..(at least da rape 1s)WHO'S W/ me on this? *silence**crickets chrip* d@#n ! so sad:(

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"keep ur thorns,cuz m running away" -Mudvayne

JB's picture

???

Porn makes men rape women? what kind of twisted reality do you live in? what about man on man porn or women on women porn? do those make men rape women? huh?

Rachelle is still Great's picture

What about....

What about the porn that victimizes young children? No one's mentioned that. (and it happens a lot more than the public realizes)

jules's picture

the point of responsibility.

Porn doesn't victimize children. People do.

~jules

morbid intentions 666's picture

i live a twisted reality of.........

i live in a generation of lacivious,carnally transgressing,hormonial driven teen hell,where men(mostly) r being assholes in raping children r children on children. & i dunno bout queer porn.never really heard of those causing trouble,just straight 1's. hmm......

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"keep ur thorns,cuz m running away" -Mudvayne

jules's picture

porn = rape

I'm not with you.

You need to remember that correlation does not imply causation, my friend.

morbid intentions 666's picture

nah!

i no there r many fators 2 rape but i think the media just plays a part in it
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"keep ur thorns,cuz m running away" -Mudvayne

JB's picture

ha!

the media condoneing rape? is that the point you are trying to make? and who says love has to do anything with sex? why can't a person want someone for thier looks? its instinct! you should wtch Desmnd Morrris' "The Human Animal before you general why "men" get turned on by porn. That brings me to another point. you seem to think only "men" look at and enjoy porn? and ffor that instsitance I will call your bluff. explain your reasoning for this and point out information that suggests that only men like porn. or perhaps even ask some of the female Oasians of thier affinity for porn.

marcelle42's picture

Counter Arguments

I'm familiar with the argument that porn is degrading to women and objectifies them, which leads to things like rape, but I think the idea that women are hapless victims of pornography is flawed. It denies women agency. There are a number of counter arguments: What about women who enjoy doing porn (as some do)? What about porn intended for female consumption (like On Our Backs magazine)? What about fanfic and erotica, where the men and women involved are fictional? And it's certainly hard to think that porn without women, like gay men's porn, can objectify women and cause rape. I don't think it's a cut and dried issue.

Karen

JB's picture

my point

my point exactly. porn does not objectify women, even porn where its men and women, is it not possibly that the women is objectifying the man?

linds's picture

not usually

I don't buy into that argument, JB. "Reverse objectification" is rarely successful. It's like making an attempt at satire. If you're not good enough, you fall into what you're supposedly poking holes in.

And on some level, pornography is almost always about objectification, because it is about bodies as objects, not the human beings that inhabit them. If it was about the latter, there would be more meaningful dialogue in which the characters bared their souls, not just their asses. :-)

That said, what the hell is wrong with a little objectification?

~Linds

jules's picture

science

"That said, what the hell is wrong with a little objectification?"

Okay, Linds. Here's an experiment. Find a first year women's studies class and wait until they get to that unit. Then ask that question. I did it once. I will never do it again.

Not that I don't wholly agree with you. Because I do.

But on a rainy day, it really is a great experiment.

~jules

JB's picture

...if you do linds....

please, if you do jules suggestion... please! wear protective clothing!

jules's picture

protection

If you protect yourself with a good argument, you should be okay.

I, ever the shit disturber, went with this one after this militant girl made it personal: "Don't fucking tell me that when your girlfriend is in front of you naked, you aren't sexualizing her. That you don't want to be sexualized back."

morbid intentions 666's picture

*agrees w/ linds*

as stated earlier,who's w/ me when i say we should take OUT DA RAPE 1's. The frickin media is glorifying all our bodies & not our true feelings of love.this is what i obsevred from my stupid society of 14 year olds: Guys or what.evr.(straight r not) just stare @ a damned picture of som person but dont care what the person is like & it becomes an obcession. they'll keep wanting that person 4 their body until 1 day they love sex appeal so much that they start wanting sex.(ie.) an teen stares @ porn pics 4 years &years & he/she get so horny from it,then they'll try out feeling or whatever on girls or w.e.

this happened 2 me u damned fools!(srry 4 language but this pisses me off)

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"keep ur thorns,cuz m running away" -Mudvayne

linds's picture

huh?

Ok. I think -- I think -- I understand what you're trying to say. But I not "w/ you" on taking "OUT DA RAPE 1's". Should we ban all the works of the Marquis de Sade, too? Or The Story of O, or Sacher-Masoch's Venus in Furs?

There are exceptions to everything. Some people get off on the idea of nonconsensual sex. This doesn't make them go out and rape people! Power play is far too complicated for you to generalize in this fashion.

A "damned fool" is someone operating without intelligence who is committed to Hell or some version thereof. I don't think those words describe me....

marcelle42's picture

Ok... I think most of us are

Ok... I think most of us are having a hard time reading your posts, because of the netspeak. That said, after reading the thing out loud to myself, are you saying you've been raped, or in a position of having sex when it was not what you wanted? If so, I'm sorry. No one should have to go through that.

As Jules pointed out, things like that are caused by assholic people. Not porn. I like porn. Yet I'm not out raping anyone... because I'm not an asshole. Ditto with all the guys I know (except for my scary Orientation Aide, who just got busted for rape... apparently, he was an asshole). Porn can't be anyone's excuse for rape, simply because there is no excuse.

Karen

jules's picture

note to self:

If you have an opinion, you are entitled to it.
Even if it isn't informed.
Even if it isn't coherent.

~

I am trying to remind myself more than anyone.

NellyL87's picture

Porn is here for us "underaged people"

You can't necessarily say that porn is "guys only" and causes rape... there's not exactly enough proof in the world for that. I for one think porn is a grand thing for us poor single (and sex starved...)teens who need some visuals to extend our sexual education (and for entertainment). Also, as a teen lesbian, you can't really say it's only for guys... despite the fact that most lesbian porn i've found has been more inclined towards a male audience...

To all people who love fanfics... I love you guys! Especially anybody who loves Haruka and Michiru (THE BEST ANIME LESBIAN COUPLE EVER!!!) as much as I do! I hoard the steamy NC-17s of them like there's no tomorrow, as well as write some of my own (as an aspiring ficcie writer). "Literature Pornography" as some people call it, is great, but some of the pics I've found are even better... movies too, on occasion...
Of course, I wouldn't call it "Literature Pornography"... I call it "An Easy Way to Express Your Sexual Frustrations" ...
~Nelly

thoughtsinelectricblu's picture

Just a thought...

I've been left with the impression, since college, that the media creates what the majority of the populace wishes to see. And when I say this...I am talking about mainstream media. And there is a difference between porn and forcing people to do things they don't want to do. If you say that anytime a person poses in the nude or people pose in the nude together, concensually, it is wrong and demeaning or demoralizing...then I guess the conversation ends here.

I'm willing to say that I don't think porn is bad. As long as it is concensual who cares....this rules out children and animals from porn, because they can't consent to such treatment.

And I've read lots of arguments about porn causing people to rape others, however how can that be. Each person has a will of their own and can choose what they do. Some people choose to do evil things, and blaming those things on something like porn is just 'someone' trying to remove the blame from the person who chose to commit the deed. We don't want to believe that another human being is capable of rape, so we blame the act on something other than the person who committed the crime. If you blame rape on porn then you are essentially taking free will out of the hands of the perpetrator and you have thus created another victim. I say that is a load of crap! I wasn't raped as a child because of porn, I was raped as a child because someone decided they needed to control me, that they needed to feel empowered, and they chose raping me to achieve that. Porn cannot make someone do such a thing. There is a good and bad, positive and negative...some people just do evil things because they choose to do them. That is sad, but it is what I believe.

Jason

Gone to find myself, If I get back before I return...Please keep me here!

morbid intentions 666's picture

hmmmm.......

good point! *hides in the shadows from whince she came*

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"keep ur thorns,cuz m running away" -Mudvayne

JB's picture

ametuer porn

Lsately I have taken an interest in this. IT seem more real, the people are not models, not paid for this. Its real. There is an article in OUT magizine this month that made me think of all this again.

then again maybe its those grainy polaroids.