My official statement over the recent drama

Corvus's picture

The nature of peer groups is that some members stand out. They become the leaders, the representives, of the peer group. In the case of Oasis, the ones who blog and comment the most are those that become the leaders. This is a perfectly normal thing based in millenia of human social interaction. The downside to being a leader is that your words can carry power and can seem to represent the feelings of the majority (Just look at the power the opinions of celebrities and gov't officials have.).

I am an heavy advocate of free speech. You are free to post as much as you want and to say what you want. All I ask, and this is to everyone, is that you keep in mind that text lacks the nuances of speech.

It's sad that I can see politics(not the gov't variety) forming in a group based in writing and support. When I start seeing situations where the words of Machiavelli could be used to describe relations with other "Oasians," I am dismayed. Perhaps I shall leave, not only because of the politics but because of my lack of involvement. I am naturally distanced from the mainstream gay community due to my personality and interests, so I have trouble fitting in to even online communities and staying involved in them. So perhaps I'll be making my goodbye statement soon, time can only tell.

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eTgen's picture

Leaders?

So those that talk the most are natural leaders? Why this is fantastic, I think I shall apply to this my everyday life. I will start to speak so much that everyone will become memorized and will do my evil biding (finally I will have my minions)! I must thank you corvus for your brilliant political leadership notes.

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Are we perhaps jealous that you do not post enough- that you can not think of witty (or witless?) come-backs, comments etc...?

I see no politics forming- I just see silly people making icebergs out of ice cubes (and eventually they will melt). People post their comments, and then people attack them.

Take for example, JB. He made some quite humerus, witty and charmingly enlightening comments. However, because apparently he is the all powerful scary monster, his words sound like those of God's. And instantly, in the vain of rebellious teenagers, we rebel against this God-like figure.

This is what you are saying. And all that comes to mind is that four letter, often used IM phrase LMAO. Good heavens, are we so scared, jealous and what-not of JB (or should I use God?) that we must mock him, shred him to bits, intimidate him, yadda, yadda yadda...

You perhaps are too serious a person. I recommend that you laugh. And, have you a friend or extra-money, take a visit to the shrink. While you may be able to use Machiavellian Wording for the relationships of fellow Oasians, I can quite easily (and much more correctly use) Freudian, Jungian and perhaps a touch of Nietzschian language on you.

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
~Hector Berlioz

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Corvus's picture

Sorry eTgen,

I never said that those who talk most are natural leaders, in fact quite the opposite. In my pack of friends, for instance, Joe is the leader, but only because he talks to the different members of our cadre the most. He is by no means a natural or willing leader, it's just happened. I saw this sort of phenomena happen all through high school and I've seen it at the coffeehouse I hang out at.

Oddly, you're the second person to mention jealousy behind my ideas. I'm too busy looking at other sites to care what generally happens at this site. I saw a girl leaving due to what was percieved as unfair treatment and that bugs me. So my instincts dragged me kicking and screaming into this. I've found out the backstory now, and while I still think she left for unfair reasons, I've seen what caused it and tried to make sure it doesn't happen again. So far, due to pride, I've failed.

As for politics, they do seem to be forming. This is causing alot of uproar that could end up in choosing sides. Hopefully this will die down and certain people will swallow their pride and try watching their words a bit more carefully. To talk of your example. He made comments that were meant to be jokes about bisexuals. As I've stated, he didn't make it clear that it was a joke. I've made that mistake while talking to friends in IMs multiple times. I am not scared, especially not jealous, of JB (Or jealous of anyone actually) and am doing my best to speak in a diplomatic tone and without mocking. I want everyone who wishes to stay will stay and that no one will get hurt like this again.

Finally, I'm not a very serious of person at all. Dark, yes. Serious, no. Therapy might be useful, but ultimately, I'm mentally stable. Feel free to use Jungian and Freudian comments to me, especially Nietzschian. I'm a fan of that last one.

Sadly, try as I might to be diplomatic, many are acting as though I'm slinging insults in his direction. I'm trying to do this as politely as possible and all I'm getting is shit. While I had one person tell me to stay, I might still leave to avoid inadvertingly being made into the bad guy. It's getting rather strenous to keep being nice. I want you to bear in mind that I could have lashed out with bitter, venomous words, but chose the path of peace only to have that pushed back in my face.

Sincerely,

Corvus

Utopia is Greek for "no place."

eTgen's picture

Oh dear me...

* Please note that my new joke policy has been implemented*

Wow! Joe, your leader, because " he talks to the different members of our cadre the most". Amazing. Simply amazing. Its a good thing

*ATTENTION PLEASE THE FOLLOWING IS A JOKE- IT IS IN NO WAY INTENDED TO BE SERIOUS, OR MISCONSTRUED IF YOU READ IT, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED*

I have only mute friends- because that means that I can control them all, since people who don't talk are mindless minions.

*END OF JOKE*

Oh sorry he is not a *natural* leader, because he talks all the time, but because he talks all the time he is a leader. Oh you saw it through High-School-

*ATTENTION PLEASE THE FOLLOWING IS A JOKE- IT IS IN NO WAY INTENDED TO BE SERIOUS, OR MISCONSTRUED IF YOU READ IT, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED*

a microcosm of the real world! It must be true.

*END OF JOKE*

People mention things for good reasons. Perhaps you are jealous. You have been posting on this site for some time. Did anyone ask you to come into this fight?

*ATTENTION PLEASE THE FOLLOWING IS A JOKE- IT IS IN NO WAY INTENDED TO BE SERIOUS, OR MISCONSTRUED IF YOU READ IT, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED*

Oh I know! You were so forced into it. The big scary JB, with his witching stick came and said: "Corvus- make a fool of yourself. Attack me with no justification. Twist my words". And in your bed you did flinch. "You speak so much. You are my leader. I bow before thee."

*END OF JOKE*

Everyone has to choose sides. Even God. Both sides can not win a sport game.

Well if you want me to, I will be more than happy to analyze you.

*ATTENTION PLEASE THE FOLLOWING IS A JOKE- IT IS IN NO WAY INTENDED TO BE SERIOUS, OR MISCONSTRUED IF YOU READ IT, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED*

*speaking in a german accent*

Good day, Corvus, my friend said you are jealous of people and are a sexually repressed creature.

I never said that- he is twisting my words.

Ah I zee and vat did you zay?

That I am jealous of people and am a sexually repressed creature.

Iz das not vat I just zaid?

No.

I zee. *Thinks: Patient displays signs of an Obsessional neurosis, and slight signs of hysteria- despite the lack of a Uterus. Furthermore, he appears to have an underdeveloped superego as evident by his Oedipus complex transformation of father onto this JB character. No doubt the character is projecting his fear and weakness of self onto this character. Good heavens I have become Jung. Ahh If only I was young again. The men, the men...*

*END OF JOKE*

Slinging mud in his direction is quite a different thing all together than twisting words and creating havoc. Where is JB in all this? It appears as if he has taken a leave of absence. Perhaps he shall return. And what shall he find upon his return?

*ATTENTION PLEASE THE FOLLOWING IS A JOKE- IT IS IN NO WAY INTENDED TO BE SERIOUS, OR MISCONSTRUED IF YOU READ IT, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED*

A bisexual free world.

*END OF JOKE*

Confucius say:
He who plays in the mud, gets dirty.

"Siquis in hoc artem populo non novit amandi,