"Wicked" - comparing the book to the musical

scandalboy's picture

what does everyone think of the changes made to the stage adaption of Wicked? personally i like the political climate and the characters in the book much more. Dr Dillamond is killed, which is a much stronger statment than what happens to him on stage! however, i love the stage adaption, and i totally understand that changes had to be made. what does everyone else think?

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adrian's picture

i've not seen the play

but i've listened to the soundtrack dozens of times, and i have read up on it on wikipedia.

Personally. I like the book more. Some of my friends were turned off by how political it became in the second half, but i quite enjoyed the intrigue.

I wanna read the sequel.

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whateversexual_llama's picture

I'm a huge fan of the book;

I'm a huge fan of the book; I read it before seeing the play, and I like it better than the play. I like the book because there's more to think about, it leaves more to be ambiguous, it offers very few answers, and it's just so... freaking... dark. I've read it... at least 5 times, and the sequel 2 or 3 times.

I do, however, love the play, and have seen it twice, own the script, can recite most of it. First of all, it has Idina Menzel (at least it does in London. Did on Broadway.) I like the fact that it was made accesible to more people, younger people. I love the music, and I'm glad that it still holds its central values. And while I disagree with many of the changes made, I understand that it'd be impossible to keep the story the same for the stage production.

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hebrew freak's picture

well....

the musical was amazing, though that was pretty much just because i'm like, in love with Eden Espinosa, and she was my Elphaba. Kendra Kassenbaum and Jenna Leigh Green were good Galinda and Nessa, respectively, but Spanish Harlem (aka Eden) rocks my socks

what people need to realize though, is that the book and the show are two completely different things. and probably the movie too, if and when they make one. Like, the absence of Avaric, Pfannee and ShenShen is okay, they arent really necessary characters to the main plot. Neither was her brother Shell.

Also, considering the length of the book, the show only covers the second and third sections of the book, and a little bit of the end as well.

Unfortunately, they also took out the wonderful lesbian subtext between Elphaba and Glinda. Winnie Holzman, who wrote the book for the show, wanted it to be about their relationship, but Stephen Schwartz disagreed, due to the homophobia that still exists on Broadway. Which i must say, is very ironic.
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ForeverEndedToday's picture

I don't like how Elphaba

I don't like how Elphaba gets a happy ending in the play. She doesn't die and meet Fiyero in heaven or whatever she just dies. But I guess I can't really compare them because my parents not me have seen the play. The book was amazing though.

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whateversexual_llama's picture

I got totally mad at the end

I got totally mad at the end of the show. I literally ranted my way out of there. Five minutes later, I was gushing about it, but still. I got mad. The second time I saw it, I left the theater right before Fiyero entered in the last scene and finished sobbing. I liked it far better the second time.

Whatever I did, I didn't do it.

adrian's picture

i just ordered

i just ordered son of a witch.
=)

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hebrew freak's picture

eh

Son of a Witch was so-so. not nearly as intriguing as the the first. though, the abundance of boyslash was pretty awesome.

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utter_insanity's picture

I haven't seen the play, but

I haven't seen the play, but I absolutely LOVE the book, and I bought the soundtrack to the musical recently. Does anybody know where you can get a tape of the play? I'm probably not going to be able to see it performed anytime soon.

I could figure out most of the storyline from the lyrics in the soundtrack, but there's one thing I really want to know. What happened to Doctor Dillamond on stage? I didn't know that he wasn't killed in the musical like he was in the book. Would somebody please tell me? I'm dying to know! (no pun intended)

I like the song "What is This Feeling?" on the soundtrack, which is sung by Galinda and Elphaba. I think it's funny, because even though it's all about how much Galinda and Elphaba hate each other so much when they first meet, if somebody changed a few of the words in it, it would make a really good lesbian love song.

For example, this part of the song sound like something from a love song:

GALINDA
What is this feeling
So sudden and new

ELPHABA
I felt the moment
I laid eyes on you

GALINDA
My pulse is rushing

ELPHABA
My head is reeling

GALINDA
My face is flushing

BOTH
What is this feeling?
Fervid as a flame
Does it have a name?

And in this part, you can rewrite the words and completely change their meaning:

Original:
BOTH
Though I do admit it came on fast
Still I do believe that it can last
And I will be loathing
Loathing you
My whole life long

My version:
BOTH
Though I do admit it came on fast
Still I do believe that it can last
And I will be loving
Loving you
My whole life long

Should I rewrite all of this song, so that it makes Galinda and Elphaba sound like they're in love with each other? I don't know if anyone else is interested or not. I know it's kind of a crazy idea. :)


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hebrew freak's picture

hhaha

hahahahhaha noooo way! i totally did that once when i was in the shower. that was a fun day. my friend was over, and we went back and forth during verses. i wish i remembered it. if i did, i would post it, but unfortunately i dont. shame....

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whateversexual_llama's picture

The first time I heard

The first time I heard anything having to do with Wicked, I was in the car with my friend and we got to my house right before they went all, "Yeeeessss.... loathing!" So I only heard the part that's all lovey.

Needless to say, that's when I fell in love.

Y'know Gregory Maguire is gay?

Whatever I did, I didn't do it.

adrian's picture

I just got son of a witch!

it arrived from amazon today =)

guess what i'm reading tonight =P

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Adrian
Putting the HEAD back into Hedonism

It's cute how you believe in things. - Slither

jeff's picture

Hmm....

I didn't read the book. But I really wasn't into the musical, either. I did see it in previews in San Francisco, in its run before broadway, so they may have changed it alot between here and NYC. They must have, because I can't imagine it doing as well as it did based on what I saw.

I mean, it was a fine show, good sets, great acting, characters, the whole Rosencrantz and Guilderstern Are Dead meets the Wizard of Oz thing, fine. But the songs? Blah... I couldn't hum a single melody within three minutes of seeing the show, which is a bad sign for a musical.

Given the choice, I'll always go with a weaker book and strong songs (see today's review of Company) than a strong book and weak songs.

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Izy's picture

I prefer the play. It skips

I prefer the play. It skips past one section in the book that bored me. That was very helpful to keep me interested. The book was very good, except that one section it seemed to drag on.

Splash's picture

I haven't seen the play, but

I haven't seen the play, but I've listened to the CD fifty million times. :-) I liked both the play and the book, but the play is more hopeful. I like that, and also the way they turned Fiyero and Boq into the Scarecrow and Tin Man.

Two things intrigue me about the book. One, I think it's been mentioned, but there are hints in places that Glinda and Elphaba might have developed romantic feelings for each other (although I'm not sure they fully understood them). Two, has anyone ever noticed that although it's essentially Elphaba's story, the story is never told from her viewpoint until about two-thirds of the way through the book?

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RegretShouldntExist's picture

I love the musical!! The

I love the musical!! The book....well my mom wont let me read but i mean she talks about it alot. I hear the baby elphaba is alot nastier and more..demon like than the doll they used on stage. They didnt talk about her baby life at all in the play....

Splash's picture

the musical...

...has parallels with part two of the book (when Elphaba is at college with Glinda) and a few with part five (the end, the point where Dorothy actually appears on the scene). Most of the rest is cut; I don't think they could have fit it all into a play!

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