Safe sex for girls?

peanut_gallery's picture

So in health classes we get info on safe sex, how to use condoms, how to put them on, STDs, birth control, bad stuff, etc. Obviously, the birth control parts focus on boy-girl sex. I know guys can use condoms with each other to contain bodily fluids, but what about girls? Is it possible for girls to practice safe sex? I mean, there's way to much to cover on a girl.

I feel like an idiot for even asking, honestly. Non-serious answers would be appreciated in addition to serious ones.

Toph's picture

I've heard about using oral

I've heard about using oral dam (haha, thanks bulldyke for correcting me). I think all they are is some material kinda like condoms, but they're just sheet-like I guess. I've also heard of using a latex glove. You cut the fingers off (except the thumb) and cut up along the edge of the glove that doesn't have the thumb. So now it's kinda like a sheet but with the thumb in the middle. It's, um, so you can kinda, um, useyourtonguebutwithsafety.

Oh, and DON'T share toys. Always was them. If you get intimate make sure there aren't any cuts, scrapes, scratches, etc. on your fingers.

That's all I know. Like you, I was curious sometime back and looked up the info :P

bulldyke's picture

Yeah, sex ed these days

Yeah, sex ed these days doesn't cover much.

Don't feel stupid for asking, you're being smart. Here's what I know. It's not graffic, but I'm not gonna dummy it down.

There is a fairly low risk of spreading STDs between two women during sex, but it is possible. The easiest is genital to genital, which is sometimes refered to as scissoring. Mouth to genitals is the next most likely. The best way to protect against STDs with oral sex is to use a mouth guard, like Toph suggested. It's usually called an oral dam (no 'n' :P). You can't buy them at your local drug store, but you can get special gloves, as well as latex sheets, to use for both digital (hands to genitals) and oral sex.

My advice is to talk to your partner before you have sex the first time, to see if she's ever had sex before. Practice caution, but don't be too afraid. Yeah, abstinance is the only 100% sure way to guard against STDs, but lesbians are far less likely to get or share infections. I wouldn't worry unless she's been with a man before. If so, I would personally offer to get tested with her. Just in case.

Other than that...yeah, don't share toys around. But it doesn't sound like you're at the toy stage yet. lol

Be careful, but have fun, too!

There are no stupid questions, only stupid people. You don't sound like a stupid person. :)

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PS You know the hinky part about sex ed class? I was the only one in my 10th grade health class that knew when and how to put a condom on. And I'm about as gay as they come. Go figure.

nydolls1973's picture

I heard it called a dental

I heard it called a dental dam. Nothing kills the mood like using something with the word "dental" in it.
Anyway, you could always simply get tested eh?
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bulldyke's picture

Yeah, but we only have cures

Yeah, but we only have cures for the bacterial infections, so about half of all STDs are noncureable. Treatable, yes, but not curable. Also, unless you and all your partners are vigilant about testing, it can't prevent anything. And again, it's not failproof. I don't know what state you live in, but not all have free and annonymous testing for teens. CA does, but I don't know about the rest.

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underdarkness's picture

I know that Ohio has free,

I know that Ohio has free, anonymous testing for STDs, though they focus more on AIDS than anything.

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underdarkness's picture

Nothing kills the mood more

Nothing kills the mood more than when a doctor says, "You have herpes".

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Uncertain's picture

And when you have to tell

And when you have to tell your partner that before sex

Totally beats the 'dental' dam

jojojo's picture

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it is hardly ever talked about, and if we don't actively search for the information, nobody will bother to give it to us... in general.

so I also don't feel certain about all this. I wanted to add that if one of you has her period then be careful, because HIV can easily be transmitted through the blood.

those dental dams... they are shaped like a handkerchief, but the material is a thin plastic foil... maybe like a condom, though I'd say slightly thinner than a condom. I've never used them... and I don't think I would feel very much at ease using them... So if I have sex with a woman whom I don't know too well, I'd prefer to have other kinds of sex, rather than having to use those dental dams.

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whateversexual_llama's picture

I once had a conversation

I once had a conversation with my friend's mom about this... my friend, who's straight, and I, were talking about who was more likely to get an STD, and her mom goes, "Well, straight lesbians are a lot less likely to get them."

And we both look at her and go "Straight lesbians?!?!?!"

At which point she stuck her foot in her mouth, ran away, and explained that she meant lesbians who only ever have sex with girls. It was hilarious.

Whatever I did, I didn't do it.

bulldyke's picture

ZOMG. My brain just

ZOMG. My brain just exploded. That's priceless. Freaking histerical! zomg

Bulldyke
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gaynow's picture

That... is ABSOLUTELY

That... is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!! AHA!!! I'm literally laughing out loud... nice one. Tell your friend's mom congratulations.

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wild-blue-yonder's picture

!

I'm laughing out loud too...

Inkblot's picture

Hah

That is amazing. Seriously.

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When I call out Your Name Do you Hear's picture

I went to a workshop on

I went to a workshop on SAFER Sex. I was told to use a dental Dam, they're like a piece of plastic wrap, only they won't get crumpled together if you ball it up. And the one I saw was purple. It's amazing. And stretchy ^_^ Ummmm...there's a female condom? I dunno what else to say.....

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milee13's picture

Oh man, the female

Oh man, the female condom...those things are bizarre.

-Ruby-'s picture

my guide to safer sex:

although i had casual sex with girls in the past, i don't plan on doing it again. from now on i would take things slower, get to know my partner, and get to the point where we feel comfortable talking about our sexual histories BEFORE we have any kind of sex.
i've never had an STD. i was tested a few months ago, my test came back clean, and i haven't had sex since then... so i would hope that would be reassuring to my my next partner. i would want to know that she had been tested since her last sexual partner too, and if she hadn't, i would suggest that we go get tested together.
that route just seems more serious and logical to me than using dams or other "protection" with a girl.
when i eat pussy, i like to taste her juices and and let my lips and tongue feel the texture of her most intimate parts... not some latex-rubber-artificial-packaging-thingy.
the whole concept of damns is just... awkward.
i mean would you ever think about giving a guy a blowjob with a condom on???
i wouldn't. i mean, unless you know that a guy has an STD or he has some kinda weird sores/rash on his genitals... the chances of you catching something from giving him head are pretty low. penis-in-vagina sex is more risky though, because the thrusting makes tiny tears inside the vagina which are painless, but can allow infections to rush in. anal sex is even more risky, because the anal tissues are more sensitive and more susceptible to tearing.
also, i like the texture of penis in my mouth... and condoms during oral would take that away.
so yes, my basic practice is: make the guy wear a condom for intercourse.
however there are certain circumstances that call for certain measures. like, if there was a girl who was on her period but was super-horny and begging me to finger-fuck her... i would put a glove on before even going near her pussy. my ex BF fucked me during my period (we both wanted it), and he wore a condom, and he wasn't grossed out or anything... so as a woman, i would think that i should be even more empathetic to the female menstrual cycle.

jeff's picture

So...

If a guy has weird rashes and sores on his junk, you'd just put a condom on him and go for it?

I think I'd just call it a night without the oral at that point.

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Azul's picture

I'd call it a night without

I'd call it a night without sex... I dunt want a herpified cock in me or near me.

-Ruby-'s picture

i've never been in that situation...

because i've never been intimate with someone who had an STD.
i prefer to talk about STD's/health with a potential partner before we do anything sexual. if i were to find out that someone had an STD, i would probably choose to just be friends with him/her (and not friends-with-benefits).

the mouse that roared's picture

The chances of getting an

The chances of getting an STD are smaller, but they are still significant and they should not be risked.

You can use condoms on toys. Also, I've heard saran wrap is a lot softer and allows for more sensitivity.

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Azul's picture

You shouldn't use lubes

You shouldn't use lubes containing Nonoxynol-9. In fact, no one should anymore. It may kill sperm, but it ends up destroying a layer of cells wherever it comes in contact with.

fox333's picture

I don't think that u should

I don't think that u should use saran wrap. i heard it lets aids through because the holes r too big.

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Splash's picture

I was told that too. Saran

I was told that too. Saran wrap is porous (even though it doesn't look it), so it doesn't protect against STDs. Not fun to risk!

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Azul's picture

If it's the kind you can't

If it's the kind you can't microwave, then it's non-porous.
If you can microwave it, then well, don't use it.

ReinbowGrl's picture

In my college human

In my college human sexuality class we just got done with the contraceptives section. The prof. didn't mention oral dams at all. I already knew about oral dams...But he did talk about a whole bunch of other random methods for preventing pregnancy...like sponges and...condoms make of sheep intestines...

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jeff's picture

Of course...

I notice there's no talk of the beauty of abstinence in here.

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milee13's picture

Abstinence is beautiful and

Abstinence is beautiful and smells like wholewheat strawberry scones.

Azul's picture

While sex is orgasmic... I

While sex is orgasmic...
I rest my case.

milee13's picture

You just don't understand

You just don't understand good quality abstinence. Scones! Strawberry! Abstain! Abstain!

Kkid28's picture

scones

can i have the scones AND sex?
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-Ruby-'s picture

yah...

sex makes me hungry.
i want sex and THEN scones.

jasonla's picture

Same here my girlfriend and

Same here my girlfriend and I get so hungry after sex we usually eat then go online to watch porn and get back in the mood. Seeing some guy using penis enlargers didn't really do it for me but she seemed to enjoy it.

bulldyke's picture

I do believe that this forum

I do believe that this forum has totally diverged from the origional topic.

And now I want scones...literally, and, ah, figuratively. Sigh...lol

Bulldyke
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runningupthefreeway's picture

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I've never had a scone, but it does make me want to eat honey combs. Can you even eat those?

Nevermind.

Yeah, Abstinence scones, all good.

Azul's picture

Honeycomb is edible. I've

Honeycomb is edible. I've eaten them before. Like in first grade which was forever ago.

runningupthefreeway's picture

89

are they any good?

Azul's picture

god yes. And y'know how it's

god yes.

And y'know how it's hard to spread honey on your preferred type of baked good or pastry. Well, spreading honey comb+some honey makes it so much easier. Like butta.

Vermont is like the center of sugary syrups.

-Ruby-'s picture

at the pool i used to lifeguard, the bees built a honeycomb

it looked yummy.

Kkid28's picture

waaaay off topic!

I thought this was about safe sex? and Im still trying to figure out how we started talking about scones and cereal!!!
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bulldyke's picture

i think ya gotta go back and

i think ya gotta go back and read the entire thread...it got off topic about halfway through when someone started talking about abstinence and scones...or something like that.

i really want a scone!!!

Bulldyke
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Splash's picture

yep, milee13 compared

yep, milee13 compared abstinence to scones. Who knows why. But all downhill from there. :-)

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Kkid28's picture

i think so

i want sex and a scone, safely!

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fox333's picture

can my scone have chocolate

can my scone have chocolate chips in it?

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Kkid28's picture

scones

why not!!

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I think you can in Euorope"
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bulldyke's picture

this thread is making me

this thread is making me freakin hungry!!! and why scones...why not, say, muffins? it seems much more appropriate, given the ORIGINAL subject.

lol whatever. i'm gonna go eat a bagel.

Bulldyke
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Kkid28's picture

a link between baked goods and sex

Muffins are good, but very crumbley, scones can be too. Bagels hold up better, and you can spread cream cheese on your partner and lick it off.
now i want a bagel and a girl!
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gaynow's picture

Whipped cream is more

Whipped cream is more traditional, I think. You can just spray it. But cream cheese would be a bitch and a half to spread on your partner, and then you'd have to eat a shitload of cream cheese, which will just make you feel disgusted. Whereas eating a load of whipped cream (literal whipped cream) is just yummy. (Read: you don't feel disgusting until afterwards.)

Plus, if you spread your partner with cream cheese, the Jews among us would be compelled to put on lox, and while delicious, being draped in smoked fish will sort of kill the mood.

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Kkid28's picture

haha

true about the whipped cream
but havent you ever heard of naked sushi?
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Dyke of Awesomeness's picture

Wow

I could see whipped cream, but I just can't see fish, and as good as cream cheese is on all sorts of things, well, personally, I'm not really into eating CHEESE off a girl. Anything else I'm probably game. But cheese, well, as much as I like it, I'm just not sure if its really a lead up to sex, but thats just me. I think ice cream would be great, I mean add the coldness into the mix, and you get cold, sweet, and sexy. Three things that interact quite well in my opinion.

gaynow's picture

Ice cream WITH whipped

Ice cream WITH whipped cream. Best of both worlds. ^^

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