Summer Reading

Zephyr's picture

Anyone reading anything decent?

My english teacher is trying to get board approval to teach "Oranges are not the only fruit" by Jeanette Winterson, she has to get board approval because it has gay undertones, and I haven't finished it yet so I don't know who much it actually discusses Jeanette's sexuality, but my teacher says it is very subtle. I find it frustrating that I go to a school that is always preaching diversity and yet there is only one book taught written by an african american. And my principal, the one that heads our school is a lesbian! Like seriously, it shouldn't be this hard to teach a book that has subtle gay references, but my teacher has been told that she could ruin her career. Wtf.

I'm also kind of mad that Borders, where I bought the book only had one copy of the book (okay, that part is fine), but they had to put it in the lesbian/gay whatever the fuck you want to call it section. Like it was so different. And according to my teacher it's very subtle and brief. And the only books that were over there were lesbian erotica books. Like that is all we are good for?

Okay. This is mad enough for now. I'll finish the book and talk about it when I finish.

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Lehcure's picture

hmm is the book good so far

hmm is the book good so far at least?
my summer reading goal is to actually finish Don Quixote without stopping for a few months. It's really good, just soo lengthy.

tenmilestilts's picture

ugh that's so

ugh that's so annoying...people are such hypocrites sometimes

i read house of the scorpion (finally) the other day. it was really good, i don't know why i couldn't finish it before. any reading suggestions?
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jeff's picture

Hmm...

I try to only read things that are indecent.

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Zephyr's picture

So far it is good, but it

So far it is good, but it has a lot of biblical references and since my family kind of strayed from the church i don't quite understand the significance of them. So I'm going to have my friend help me out with that. Like the chapters are named after books of the bible, and I understand that Genesis being the first chapter, and the first book in the bible, it makes sense. But the others don't. So, if anyone else could help that would also be splendid.
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth. Yeah, if anyone could give me any significance for naming the chapters books of the bible, or specifically these books, that would be SO helpful. XD
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jeff's picture

Hmm...

So, it's a bad thing that people looking for books with gay themes can easily find them in Borders? Isn't that easier?

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Lol-taire's picture

No that is bad.

No that is bad. Marginalising fiction with lgbt characters/ themes to the netherworld of 'gay fiction' means that literary authors like Winterston become overlooked and that the wider themes in their work are unexplored. It means all that lgbt authors and their characters can ever be is Gay. Which discourages authors to write about lgbt themes if they want either literary credibility or commerical success.

It also mean someone has made the decision that this book is a 'gay book'. Which imposes a reading of the text that might not actually be that helpful. Like if someone put 'Moby Dick' in the Whaling Section of my imaginary book shop, alongside "How to Catch Whales" and "Dirty Great Whale Stories IV".

jeff's picture

Hmm...

On the flip side, I think there'd be *less* gay titles stocked without that section. By deciding to have such a section, Borders will track and keep on top of that market in a way that they otherwise might not. A gay "best seller" often moves far less units than a mid-list seller in general fiction.

So, I think if you completely integrate, you eliminate more gay voices.

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"People who are happy are slugs... They do not move the human race forward."
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jeff's picture

Not to mention...

The gay section is a good place to cruise guys. :-)

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"People who are happy are slugs... They do not move the human race forward."
-- Camille Paglia, on Oasis

Zephyr's picture

I don't cruise guys in that

I don't cruise guys in that section because if I was then they'd be gay guys, and gay guys don't really want bi girls do they? Okay, well that goes on the assumption that they are completely gay. I think I just proved my point... wrong. *sigh*

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Lol-taire's picture

That's disgusting. Board

That's disgusting. Board approval can fuck off.

I read "Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit" again and again when I was younger; it was the first time I'd seen us writen down. It definately isn't my favourite book, but it's a book I'm grateful to by default.

It doesn't have 'gay undertones', and they're not subtle or brief- as if it were a sidenote. I admire your teacher for wanting to teach it, but it worries me she would still marginalise sexuality in the book in that way.

But lesbian sexuality in "Oranges" isn't subtextual, it's just text.

Zephyr's picture

Thank you for saying that

Thank you for saying that about the board. And your point about Borders, was totally what I was going for. You just of course said it more eloquently, and articulated it much better.

And she didn't say that per se. I don't quite remember and it wasn't like I talked to her yesterday about it. She did say that it was subtle, but that's about all she said. But I just like that she's trying.

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niks121997's picture

I'm reading...

Unmasking the Face by Ekman and Friesen. I then want to read the Facial Action Coding System.

Zephyr's picture

I've never heard of it,

I've never heard of it, you'll have to tell me if it's good. xD

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jeff's picture

Hmm...

Yeah, all the Pixar people and others are big on FACS. I have some audiobooks on the subject, as well, so that I can use a modest amount of description to convey character information/intent.

Malcolm Gladwell discusses FACS in one of his books. I'm thinking it's in Blink.

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"People who are happy are slugs... They do not move the human race forward."
-- Camille Paglia, on Oasis

niks121997's picture

Yeah...

I read Blink a few weeks ago and saw it was mentioned in there. I'm waiting for "Outliers" to be available from the library now. I find FACS to be rather useful in many different ways, which is partly why I'm interested in reading about it.