"Gay History 101" Anybody?

Anonymous's picture

Would you guys like me to put a little Gay History 101 class together for you? I think it's really important that you understand the evolution of gay culture. We do have a rich and colorful history and cultural heritage, you know. I mean, not only the American Gay rights Movement, which was an important one, but how homosexuals influenced history, art, technology, politics.

If you'd like to do this, let me know. No sign up necessary. It would just be articles by me, followed by stuff to think about and comment on, and optional assignments to do if you wanted. Reply here if you're erally interested. This will take time, and I am very short on time. If I get ten replies saying they would seriously be interested in learning this stuff, then I'll do it.


Morgan's picture


And if you're covering famous people of the past, don't forget Publius Vergilius Maro. I went head over heels for that one after reading Durante Alighieri's Inferno in high school.

ferrets's picture

funs :D

this sounds good and fun and something i would enjoy :D

experince the awe and mystery that reaches from the deepest inner mind to the outer limits!

holahaveamuffin18's picture

yuussss! i'm a total history

i'm a total history nerd, and it seems like there's a shortage of gays in my history classes....

carmen143's picture

I'm interested!

Sounds to me like a cool idea.

I've always been interested in history so I'm all for this! :)

<3 FLAME ON! <3

ShowMeLove's picture


I'm always up for knowing more about our history...

Tbh, to me, LGBT history is usually far more interesting than the stuff that they taught us in school. I don't know if it's because I feel so strongly apart of our community or what, but reading the stories of LGBT people often gives me a real sense of pride. Not just the big political stuff either, like what Harvey Milk did, and the stonewall riots or anything to do with getting equal rights; but also the little things nowadays, like, when a famous person comes out of the closet.

Once upon a time I ripped the wings from my spine
But when I hide inside your eyes I still pretend that I can fly

jeff's picture


Seems like Pat should assign these out like homework. ;-)

"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

typicalmusician's picture

I'm not sure that I exactly

I'm not sure that I exactly have what one could call time to do serious assignments (I get enough of that in real life), but I would certainly read, learn, comment, and really appreciate the knowledge! Sounds like an awesome idea. I'm in. :)


Merric's picture

Sounds like a good idea.

I say go for it.

loreonpravus's picture


There's not too much gay culture and history that there's exposure for. I'd really like the chance to know more about it.

niks121997's picture

I like it

Sounds like a good idea.

Just Dave's picture

Sign me up!

This sounds like fun. How will this work though? Will it be like a series of journal entry type lectures? Open forums?

stardust's picture

Yes please!

:-) Great idea Pat! I'd love something like that. I've already been trying to educate myself about LGBT history this year, but there's still so much I don't know. I think Gay History 101 would be awesome. I'm in.

Dracofangxxx's picture

I dunno, maybe? I might not

I dunno, maybe? I might not be very dedicated XD
Sometimes I like to sit at night and stare at the lamppost because it's the brightest thing in my life...

patnelsonchilds's picture


I'll start on the research and start putting the articles together. Don't worry guys. There's not going to be homework. I could never find time to read it. This will be like wedging and elephant into a VW Beetle as it is. I just want you to read the articles, discuss, contribute your own thoughts, add any other related tidbits you might find on the topic in the Land of Google.

The only assignment I might give those who actually participate in the discussions, etc, would be to maybe look of one of the people I don't really have time to touch on (they will be legion) and post a little info about them. Even that will be optional.

So no worries anyone.

To keep the installments easy to find and less bulky and confusing, I'll post them each as separate forum topics starting with Gay History 101 - . Then I'll tag them that way so people can search and find them all.

Dealing with Jon's death has really put me behind in my work, so it may be a week or two before I can get the first article done, but I'll put it on my Outlook so it will keep bugging me.

Glad so many are you are interested. That makes me very happy.



- Pat Nelson Childs
"bringing strong gay & lesbian characters to Sci-Fi & Fantasy"

FreedomUniversal's picture

Great idea!

I am 100% interested in this idea! This is a great way to get us involved and up to date on LGBT past and current issues.



tenmilestilts's picture


thanks, pat! i've realized recently that my knowledge of gay culture and history is sadly lacking.
Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do!

rainforestchild's picture


that would be great. I have always felt like I don't know enough about gay culture, but whenever I try to look it up I can't find any straight forward info.

patnelsonchilds's picture

You need gay forward

You need gay forward info.


- Pat Nelson Childs
"bringing strong gay & lesbian characters to Sci-Fi & Fantasy"

patnelsonchilds's picture


Ordered several good reference books to help me out, and Amazon has already shipped them. I haven't decided to go chronological or skip around. Some periods have extensive info, whereas others you have to theorize based on cultural norms, religious and social practices at the time, etc. Luckily, history is my bag, baby, Be-have! So in those instances where there are no clear written records, I'll give you my hypothesis based on the scant available information and the cultural clues present in their societies. Those theories will be argued against by many contemporary archaeologists (thought thankfully fewer than before), because they tend to be a bunch of raging homophobes, but I think my hypotheses are usually pretty sound.

Anyway, workin on it. More soon.



- Pat Nelson Childs
"bringing strong gay & lesbian characters to Sci-Fi & Fantasy"

perple's picture


I love learning about how many history-altering people were gay! And it also pisses me off how no history books say it! Only in Spanish THIS YEAR did we finally get a handout that said Francesco Garcia Lorca was executed for his liberal Republican views and his *gasp* homosexuality!

Nanook's picture

Will it make me hate Jackson

Will it make me hate Jackson and Polk even more?
Because that's all I've ever learned to do in history classes.

I'm down with this.

Bi the Book's picture

definitley i say go for it i

i say go for it
i could totally use a gay history 101 lesson
great idea pat!

Wolfcry's picture

sure, sure

lmao, did you know that William Shakespear was either gay or bi? I'm all 4 it.

"Oh what tangled webs we weave, When we practice to deceive. I know you well, Actions and motives. Bear the cross, wear the crown, it's just some evil you can't bleed out. Hell has to notice, Your actions and motives." 10 Years, Actions And Motives

jeff's picture

Research books?!

Pat's lived through most of this... bad memory? ;-)

"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

patnelsonchilds's picture

Hardy har har. If you're

Hardy har har. If you're referring to late 20th century gay civil rights, yes, I did. I won't be focusing on the gay rights movement primarily though, but rather on homosexuality and its place in other cultures and time periods all the way back to the Ancient Egyptians. I'll cover some contemporary stuff, but mostly in the historical context. I don't want to do "Gay Politics and Activism 101". Others are far better suited for that than I am.


- Pat Nelson Childs
"bringing strong gay & lesbian characters to Sci-Fi & Fantasy"

Splash's picture


I'm going to watch for the articles to start showing up! :-)

~~~ the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses ~ e e cummings ~~~

patnelsonchilds's picture

Leaping About

I picked that title because it sounds so gay. I was going to do this chronologically, but the really ancient stuff is largely my own hypothesizing based on obscure references and my knowledge of the cultures in question. As that will take more time to put together, I decided to just skip around while I work on that one. As I have a bit of time until the third of the reference books I ordered arrives, I thought I'd let you guys decide what period to cover first, so I posted a poll so you could vote. It's active for four days, so no dilly dallying. Here's the link so you won't have to hunt:

Gay History 101 Poll

I'll let you know how it all washes out, then get busy on the article.



- Pat Nelson Childs
"bringing strong gay & lesbian characters to Sci-Fi & Fantasy"

cheese's picture

enlighten me :). totally

enlighten me :).
totally sounded smart for a few. :D

"why? does she have a penis?"
-Data Rock (cause im a geek like that)

rythmn_n_rhyme_grrl's picture

I think this would

I think this would fantastic! They never write about us in the history books ( I made a point of looking) and frankly I'm too lazy (or busy perhaps?) to look around on the internet. >.< I'm totally up for it!