Liberal vs Conservative (according to Hal Lindsey)

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I've decided I want a new journal, because I liked that old one, but I'll post it tomorrow, I want to try something at this very second, and I didn't want to post tomorrow. I'll write it now.

*Edit*: See, after I posted that, I was looking for a liberal vs. conservative quiz I might put in the forum later, as I tend to be extremely liberal in certain issues, and in a few I'm mildly conservative, though I lean heavily liberal (of course). But I found something more interesting, and I wanted to do an experiment, with annotations. I'll probably fail... :P
We'll see how I do.

(Beginning now)
New definitions: 'Liberal' vs. 'conservative'

Posted: October 28, 2004
1:00 am Eastern

By Hal Lindsey
© 2011

When I was growing up, the political labels "conservative" and "liberal" basically described fiscal philosophies. (yes...)

Of course, there were exceptions. For instance, for much of the last 40 years, "conservative" denoted a more nationalistic, democracy-inclined outlook. (Well, democracy as in tyranny of the majority...)

"Liberal" implied a much greater acceptance of competing worldviews like socialism and communism. But as a rule, the labels usually indicated a philosophic divide over the role of government and its claim on our tax dollars. (Greater acceptance yes, but I don't know where you got socialism and communism... :P)

"Conservatives" generally favored allowing private initiative to flourish without overbearing governmental intrusion. In other words, the "keep the government's hands out of our wallets and we'll all be better off" kind of thinking. (Sounds reasonable...)

"Liberals" usually felt that only the government could wield the kind of power needed to tackle society's biggest problems. And certainly only the government could solve those problems with fairness and impartiality. Their thinking was, "Don't trust big business. Only big government will bother to take care of the little guy." (I wouldn't say that...)

But beyond those fiscal and political differences, many of the people of both stripes were remarkably similar. There were good, moral, spiritual people on both sides of the aisle. (Woah, they're not anymore? Since when?) Though they usually disagreed on domestic issues, they often stood together on foreign issues. (Probably)

Though they often disagreed on how many tax dollars to collect and how to spend those dollars, they frequently agreed on issues of moral consequence to the nation. It was not uncommon for a fiscal "liberal" to be spiritually and morally conservative. (Ugh, God forbid "morally conservative liberals" ewww...)


Of course, there are always exceptions on both sides. But by and large, the core beliefs of a "conservative" and a "liberal" in past decades are as I have outlined them above. (I dunno, I wasn't alive)

But these labels do not mean the same thing today. When you examine the fiscal philosophies of the two major political parties, they are now unfortunately similar. (I'm not sure about that...)

Though the Republicans decry big government, Republican administrations usually do very little to downsize. (Only to be expected)

On the other hand, the Democrats are currently attempting to claim the mantel of "peacemaker" while charging the Republicans with "warmongering." They conveniently ignore the fact that in the last half-century, with just a couple of exceptions, America has entered into every conflict or war under Democratic leadership. (No one said the Democrats were saints either...)

But the thing that concerns me most – and should concern all Christians – is this: The characteristics that used to define and divide conservatives and liberals – economics and government – now don't seem so defining. And the qualities that used to unite members of both major parties – morality and national pride – are now the arena of all-out warfare. It is the great divide. (Hide in the basements, society's not the same as it once was!!!!)

(But what does it all mean? If only you could put it succinctly into today's realities)
Putting the issues succinctly into today's realities, it looks like this: If you are a "liberal," you favor abortion and you support homosexual marriage. (Mmmm hmmm...) You want to see prayer banned from public gatherings and you think all Scripture – including the Ten Commandments, which form the basis of our system of law – should be removed from the public square. (Sounds about right) You believe that condemning certain deviant behavior should be a crime. (Well, depends what you mean... Murdering deviant, no, gay deviant, yes...)

If you are a "liberal," you think government can make better decisions and spend your money more wisely than you. (Well I didn't ask to have words put in my mouth thar) You believe that legislation can dramatically improve the fortunes of all Americans. (Woah, slow down thar) You think that taxpayers should foot the bill for many who either don't want to work or can't work as a result of their destructive lifestyles. (Well, when you put it that way... YES)

A "liberal" today takes comfort in the knowledge that even if America's citizens, legislators and Constitution get it wrong, somewhere there's an unelected judge that will make it right. Especially in the Supreme Court, which to the liberal exceeds the authority of the Constitution. (Depending on what parts of the Constitution you choose to ignore or read?)

Furthermore, the majority of liberals think the United States is responsible for most of the conflict, poverty, pollution and hardship in the world. (It propogates it, yes, is responsible for most of it, that's harsh) You believe America should place itself under the supervision and direction of the United Nations, functioning not as a sovereign nation, but as a member of the collective. (I never said that)

And most concerning of all, if you are a liberal, you are convinced that religion has caused most of our problems and should either be banned or tightly controlled. (Well, it causes problems, but liberals know that we let people do their own thing, and that includes religion. We believe religion should be banned? That's overreaching... And I don't see why that's most concerning of all, unless you're one of those people that annoy me talking about "traditional Judeo-Christian values"...)

Finally, if you are a "liberal," you probably don't believe there should be any restrictions on your moral or ethical behavior. (As long as it doesn't negatively affect anyone else, why not?)

At the other end of the spectrum lie the "conservatives." (That would be logical...)

"Conservatives" predominantly believe that life is given by God and begins at conception. (Yes...) They believe it is therefore sacred and to be revered and preserved at all cost. (Go on...) You think that our basic rights are granted by God, Himself – not by governments of men or human courts – and therefore cannot be denied without penalty. (Like marriage?) "Conservatives" believe our nation was founded by Christians on Judeo-Christian principles – that those principles and values have enabled our nation to become strong and prosperous. (HA! I knew it.)

If you are a conservative, you probably are convinced that it is not only our right to worship without interference, but that it is our obligation to publicly remind ourselves from whence our strength and blessings flow. (Well, "conservatives" appear to be tolerant of their own religion, while liberals are tolerant of all religions - and everything else. Nobody's stopping you from mentioning God or praying in public, but while "reminding yourself" where your blessings come from, maybe avoid "telling others" that they are the same and should listen to your beliefs. But, I digress... )

As a conservative, you understand that marriage is a sacred institution designed by God to be the union of one man and one woman. You think that when society condones and sanctions deviant behavior, destructive lifestyles and moral depravity, it degrades and weakens our nation. (Exactly, that's exactly what we want... Wait, you think "deviant behavior" is bad... hehehehe... )

A "conservative" believes in the power and the rights of the individual, the family and the private sector to create and preserve wealth. You believe that our earned wealth is to enhance our lives. (Money = Happiness?) You are confident that government should play an important role in protecting the nation, supplying common essential services, and providing a safety net for the weaker and less fortunate in our midst. It should, however, be our servant and not our master. (Yah...)

Finally, if you are a conservative, you probably believe that God raised up the United States of America and continues to bless her because she honors Him. (I don't see why God favors the US over other Christian countries...) You believe that we owe our allegiance to her – not to a cartel of nations that are determined to see her humiliated and hobbled. (That sounds cultish)

You believe America should stand for honor, equality, morality and righteousness,(Except for the gays?) and that we should be prepared and willing to defend those virtues no matter the price. (Unless they involve gay people or other religions?)

Twelve years ago, the campaign slogan that propelled Bill Clinton to victory was: "It's the economy ... Stupid." But to the informed and critically thinking person today, there are much more important issues than just the economy. (As there should be? The economy is boring)

We are facing an enemy that hides in the shadows, doesn't play by any of the rules, and is determined to use any means to bring about our literal annihilation. (Yep, that's all we gays care about, I know I don't care about finding someone I can love and marry just like everyone else, I'm just using this as a ploy to destroy society. We're all anarchists, you know)

And though this aptly describes the Islamic fanatics who seek our destruction,(Racism, anyone?) it also describes the enemy that lurks among us. The enemy that seeks to remake America from within. (Well, you didn't like from without, either...)

Twelve years ago, you could vote for the liberal agenda and plausibly convince yourself that you were just calling for a change in fiscal philosophies. Today, you don't have that luxury. A vote for the conservative cause next week – in the national, state and local races – is a vote to continue the effort to reverse America's decline and restore her to a path of morality, conscience and strength of character. (Unless if involves gay people, of course)It's a vote to continue America's return to her rightful place as the strongest beacon of hope in a terrified world. (Reminds me of Big Brother)

Please, make your voice heard. Be strong and stand by your convictions, not upon who makes the biggest claim of increasing your paycheck. Take this opportunity – it may be one of our last – to re-assert our claim to America's Judeo-Christian heritage. (Psht, there he goes again)

Vote! Vote for the candidate whose biblical (Is there any other "biblical outlook" than "I believe in the bible", or "I don't believe in the bible"?) and moral outlook most closely resembles yours. Take someone with you to vote. Don't listen to the predictions of the mainstream media. They have already demonstrated that they are totally sold out to the "liberal cause."(Yeah, we pay off the media, too, we are good) No matter what they say, vote anyway. Even if your candidate is losing, your voice will still be heard – but only if you cast a ballot on Nov. 2. (And then it won't matter anyway)


625539's picture


... ugh
i'll just edit this comment when you update this entry

swimmerguy's picture


It takes a while, the other journal was short, I'll post it tomorrow.

No one escapes from life alive

elph's picture


My sentiments lie with Magic Fantastic.

The problem is that many may come away thinking that WorldNetDaily could --- just possibly --- be a source of honest news and commentary!

All should be disabused of the thought that this could ever be true.

That being said... your italicized comments were quite appropriate for the garbage (mostly) that preceded. Maybe caps would have worked more effectively :)

Very much looking forward to tomorrow's journal/commentary!

Don't change...