I wonder

swimmerguy's picture

I wonder...
You know, at Brigham Young University, the mormon-run university in Utah, they have an "honor code" that the students are expected to live by.
I'm reading up on it right now.

Well, and obviously, I don't agree with it, but I don't really care either, I think if they want to do what they want, that's absolutely fine with me.

But one of the things they ban is "substance abuse, and abstinence from alcohol, tobacco, coffee, and tea".
I just wonder... If they were having a party or something, might there be someone who's like, "hey, guys. I got me some iced tea, man, you want a hit?"
Would they like, get disgusted and leave?
I guess I've never been there, I really don't know how relaxed they are about this whole Honor Code thing, but as most of the things are a religious thing, I'd imagine not very.

Whatever.
And, I'm sure you're wondering about their policy on gays.
Well, they say that they will welcome with full membership anyone with stated same-sex attractions, which I thought was relatively reasonable of them, considering they don't like drinking tea.
They say you can't have sex though, although that isn't a huge issue because no one can have sex unless married, and gays can't get married in Utah, obviously.
So, uh, they just don't have sex, I dunno.

The only thing that appeared intolerant was that they didn't welcome anyone who had any acts of "physical intimacy that give expression to homosexual feelings", so basically, you couldn't date, while I think that straight couples can.
But, that is more reasonable than I thought, still.

Oh, Mormons, admirable as always, yet also extremely conservative :P

Anyway, goodnight my Oasisies!

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jeff's picture

Hmm...

Shouldn't that be Oasissies?

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

elph's picture

Rule?

Just wondering...

jeff's picture

I've certainly...

used that term before. Just seems like if he's going to go that far, may as well make the sissy part more overt.

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

Quietwarrior's picture

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You cant drink tea - isn't that a bit extreme, i mean you are not going to get high off it

elph's picture

Many religious sects...

...take pride in behaving irrationally :(

btw... If the tea is strong, and you drink enough... you can, indeed, experience an enjoyable high. It doesn't quite meet the standards of a good orgasm... but, it does last a bit longer!

jeff's picture

Maybe...

They heard something about teabagging and are being overly cautious?

The religious view on homosexuality is the same across all religions: no sex before marriage... oh, and no marriage.

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

lonewolf678's picture

Hmm,

"The religious view on homosexuality is the same across all religions..." and what have you based this off of?

jeff's picture

Well...

Since I was making a joke, I made it up, of course.

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

jeff's picture

Of course...

You'll have a difficult time convincing me that Islam is accepting of gays, since there is enough evidence to the contrary.

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

lonewolf678's picture

Jeff, calm yourself.

I was just making a joke as well... O.O
Why did you get so defensive?

jeff's picture

I'm at work....

So, I figured I'd get one step ahead of things with any Islam is not anti-gay angle.

Joking about religion isn't really your thing, though.

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

lonewolf678's picture

:-D

"So, I figured I'd get one step ahead of things with any Islam is not anti-gay angle."

Only in America! LOL!

jeff's picture

To be fair...

It did work. No? ;-)

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

lonewolf678's picture

Honestly,

I have no idea what you have to gain from saying my religion is to blame for senseless violence. Why blame religion, when people committed the atrocities?

jeff's picture

Well...

There is a Hitchens quote, or him quoting someone else, but I couldn't remember enough keywords to find it in any event. But the gist was that people on their own are less likely to commit violent acts, or go to war, but give them a seemingly moral basis to do it, like religion, and they can become killers. I'm horribly botching that up, I'm sure, but that is the trajectory. It is probably in his book, "God is not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything," though. I have a signed copy, heh.

The idea being that morality exists and thrives outside of religion, and that religion is an easy way to pervert morality for its own aims. And that there is nothing moral than can be done within a religion that can't be done outside of it.

But to be clear, I'm not against *your* or any one religion. I'm against *all* religion, except Buddhism, although I consider that more of a philosophy.

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

elph's picture

Thank you...

...for expressing this concept so concisely. Although you may be paraphrasing Hitchens... I wish these words could have been mine.

lonewolf678's picture

Well,

good luck getting all religions to topple. Not everyone is as close minded as you would think.

jeff's picture

Uhh...

I don't recall saying either of those two things.

But, not interested in religion toppling, since I don't bother pursuing things that won't happen. I would support it, of course, but history seems to show we always like some sort of myth structure.

People might not be as closed minded as I think, but they're also not as open minded as I would prefer.

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain