God hates fags!

socialist's picture

“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven." (Luke 6:37)

Right from God Himself. The Westboro Baptist Church, abusing the right to protest, protests against homosexuality with signs saying things like "FAGS ARE BEASTS" and "FAGS DOOM NATIONS". They're going to Hell according to their book. It seems the members of the Westboro Baptist Church only listen to the things that they agree with God on. This means they aren't devout Christians.

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"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)

Those men have neither full beards NOR sideburns! They are no better than those who they are judging. It is true, this is from Leviticus, which is only rules God made for the Jewish Israelites to follow, but the passage that says homosexuality is a sin ["Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable." (Leviticus 18:22)] is from the same book of the Old Testament. That means homosexuality is no more a sin than shaving, which is only a guideline for Jews! But the WBC hates Jews, too!

So many contradictions!

Here is another point made by somebody else:
http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/gallery/lhjod0-b78765498z.120...

I might send them an email or something pointing this stuff out. Not that they would care about their ignorant hypocrisy.

*Sorry if this isn't a very good post; I didn't have time to edit it*

Comments

lonewolf678's picture

Ah yes,

the Westboro Baptist Trolls. Funny how Westboro hates on the Jews but uses laws from the Torah to support their battle against Gays. In which they're Christians and don't follow Judaism's teachings. It's paradoxical.

Perhaps We Should Leave's picture

And here I always thought these people were rational

Have you ever stopped to consider that pointing out the stupidity of these people's arguments is pretty much intellectual masturbation? What's the point of it? Nothing you've said is anything we've not heard or thought of before. Why do you bring it up? To make yourself feel better by pointing out the foibles of a tiny group of extremists?

That's a bit small, don't you think?

I think it'd be better if we simply forgot about them and didn't acknowledge them at all- that way they had no effect on our lives at all. That would be truly defeating them. Assuming, of course, that you really want to defeat them as opposed to, well, masturbate.

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Cymbaline;
Yes it's high time,
Cymbaline-
Please wake me.

elph's picture

And... How would you characterize...

...one who takes the time to point out the "intellectual masturbation" (just how does that work?) of someone who, in turn, has pointed to the very embarrassing "religious masturbation" pursued in public by the likes of the fanatics at WBC?

SMALL?

Huh?

Perhaps We Should Leave's picture

I expected such a retort

And I characterize myself as someone who is making a response to someone who WILL listen to reason as opposed to someone who won't.

Nice try, and thanks for playing.

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elph's picture

Reason?

Where?

Perhaps We Should Leave's picture

Somewhere in Swimmerguy's post.

Obviously.

EDIT: I believe the more important question is: why are you trying to reason with- of all people- me?

EDIT 2: In the interest of politeness, I'd like to point out that when this exchange occurred I was lacking greatly in sleep and feeling very out of sorts. I apologize for my behaviour and retract my statements.

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When one finds oneself remembering that one is mentally ill, one often finds it best to remind oneself that oneself is not truly mad, but more likely, the world around oneself is mad and can only be dealt with with madness and wit in turn. So, in conclusion, when one finds oneself remembering that one is mentally ill, the proper response is to find the nearest policeman and throw a banana-cream pie in his face.

Uncertain's picture

Aren't you just so clever.

Aren't you just so clever.

Perhaps We Should Leave's picture

No

I'm not.

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swimmerguy's picture

Ah, I love the WBC

I have to say I really admire that they don't care that everyone else hates them and pays no attention to their misguided protests...
But, as, uh, I'm not really sure how to refer to him now, I'll still call him Tophat, the guy above me in the comments, said, there's really no point in refuting their arguments any more.
Most of the WBC is a single family, led by a single, hate-filled man who's used the incredible power of childhood indoctrination and exclusiveness to create a family that hates and has no power to do anything but.

Fred Phelps just created basically an extension of himself, who would by himself just be what he is, an angry old man no one likes, but now has a hundred or so to stand behind him in that goal, giving him a little more legitimization.

The WBC reminds me of a phrase from 1984 used to describe Goldstein, a man who advocated for freedom and other "heretical" ideas now widely reviled by the society of 1984: Goldstein and his heresies will live forever. Every day, at every moment, they will be defeated, discredited, ridiculed, spat upon - and yet they will always survive.
That's the thing, the WBC is immune to any argument for reason you might throw at them, case in point, watch the most hated family in america, about them, and you'll see they can't be reasoned with.
When you bother to continue to argue with them, you're making them win, cause all they want is to stir up things, and they're very good at it. You will never defeat them with logic, the only way to do it now is to ignore them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5ghXdq6Z0&safe_search=on

Perhaps We Should Leave's picture

Call me Yossarian

Someone really ought to address the dead man in my tent, by the way.

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When one finds oneself remembering that one is mentally ill, one often finds it best to remind oneself that oneself is not truly mad, but more likely, the world around oneself is mad and can only be dealt with with madness and wit in turn. So, in conclusion, when one finds oneself remembering that one is mentally ill, the proper response is to find the nearest policeman and throw a banana-cream pie in his face.

jeff's picture

WBC...

I find people are most strident about the Bible passages that don't affect them personally.

Beyond that, I think Fred Phelps is potentially a gay rights hero. There are many socially conservative people who may have been on th efence about gay issues, and Phelps and his clan have sort of raised the bar to the point where people who might not be on the pro side of gay issues empathize with the people WBC is victimizing, which is the step before questioning the validity of those stances. And I think Phelps causes more people to reflect on those stances from an empathetic position way more than a million HRC campaigns.

So, is he vile? Sure. Does he hurt our cause? I'd argue no.

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lonewolf678's picture

lol

And here I am thinking that I was the only person with a eerily similar view.

radiosilence95's picture

I love how people pick and

I love how people pick and choose which Bible verses they want to follow. And that is all I will say about religion. Don't wanna offend anybody.

As for the WBC, the more we hate on them, the more attention they get, and the more they'll protest. If we ignore them, they'll crawl back into their church and keep their hypocrisy to themselves. But because they've gotten so much attention, they think they're being heard, so they continue the nonsense.

Also, there is one good thing about their ridiculous protests. People see their hatred towards gays and are appalled. So disgusted that they take our side. Yep. Like, "Wow, what a bunch of idiots. Their irrational protests make me realize that gays don't deserve that."