Colonial Wasters of Life and Limb

swimmerguy's picture

Well, I have a confession to make:
I thought for a couple seconds that I could spread sanity among conservatives.

Needless to say, it didn't happen. That group I recently mentioned Veterans against Occupy Wall Street, blocked me, but then I thought, "maybe if I go on some other conservative page and respectfully debate, I can even spread a little sanity among them".
So I did that, I went on another conservative page, and there was a post about how Obama had to go, and how conservatives must fight for the future of the country to stop the spread of socialism, but that for that fight the stupid liberals will call the conservatives names like "bigot" and otherwise.
So I decided to leave a respectful dissenting comment: Hmmm... Democrats are hardly innocent, but can you honestly say Republicans have zero responsibility either? Remember that debt ceiling crisis?
The problem of refusing compromise exists on both sides. Honestly, I'm a liberal, but I recognize not all people in this country are, and that therefore the only way to even contemplate getting something done, you have to work with the other side, which I'm willing to do.

And blaming liberals for name-calling? The comment above me calls Obama a terrorist.

And then one of the responses by one of the guys who liked the page said Chad: obama is addressed by these "nicknames" based solely on who he really is, things he has done (blatantly or behind closed doors) and when you begin to realize (awaken) you'll see... he is just digging himself deeper. I don't dislike him because he's black... but ONLY because he's a narcissistic, anti-American, socialistic, terrorist...Who is a trader to our country and has no rights what-so-ever to take the place of honor as the President of the United States of America!! Just look at who this fool associates with! You can always judge a man by his company! He even said himself that he's loyal to the muslim brotherhood. Well I tell you...Mr.obama, I'm loyal to America and if it takes us all to stand together to see you thrown out on your butt (or shipped to Kenya)...so help us God, WE WILL!

The page administrator was slightly more sane, saying he wouldn't personally call Obama a terrorist, but that he did violate his oath to defend the Constitution of our country.
Like I said, only slightly more sane.

Needless to say, my journey ended after this one comment.

Now, I understand that people you disagree with can seem like douchebags. I watch The Colbert Report often, and he's a liberal guy, and he makes liberal jokes, and I think he's fucking hilarious.
Rush Limbaugh, on the other hand, is a conservative who makes conservative jokes, and to me, all it does for me is make him look like a douchebag. That's cause I disagree with him, I totally understand that to a conservative, Colbert probably looks like a douchebag.

So I make jokes a lot about conservative people, and sometimes I use words I wouldn't otherwise to describe these people, sometimes pretty creative ones, but I'm pretty sure one I would never use would be terrorist, either in joking, or especially, in an argument with a conservative. I don't know what your definition of terrorist is, but mine usually includes killing a lot of people.
As far as I know, Obama's never done, that, and neither has Rick Santorum of Mitt Romney.

Has he said he supported the Muslim Brotherhood? Frankly, I don't know, I've never heard that before, but it wouldn't be the first time a conservative made up a lie about Obama (like that he's a Muslim or wasn't born in the US).
And if he did, I'd have to see what he said. I can't say I totally agree with the Muslim Brotherhood, but from what I know about them, most of the time, they're actually a kind of good thing in the Middle East. They're a little radical by my standards, but they tend to be more secular and tolerant, and a very necessary counterweight to the Salafist movement, which is one that I find a lot scarier than the Brotherhood.

But debate over.

Pretty cool song.

Fuck me, I was gonna say some things, but then we were watching The King's Speech and I forgot what they were.
Whatever.

If all goes well, by Tuesday I'll be able to drive a car by myself.
Legally, anyway.

Night guys.

Comments

radiosilence95's picture

This is why I hate politics.

This is why I hate politics. It's just two parties arguing about stupid things and accomplishing nothing. Seriously, what's the point of having democrats and republicans if all they do is bicker and go at each other's throats? I think we have more important issues to address than trying to prove which party is the better.

Tycoondashkid's picture

this is why America needs more than 2 parties

in Scotland alone There are easily 25 (SNP, Labour, Lib Dem's) although SNP (Scottish Nationalist Party) will always be Scotlands favourite, and the Liberal Democrats will always fail, in the Edinburgh local elections they were out voted by a GUY DRESSED AS A PENGUIN! Pingu out voted them.

But do the Democrats and Republicans every stop Fighting? i know SNP and Labour Fight all the time, but thats because they are very similar parties with there biggest goal being the opposite (Labour wants to expand Britain, SNP wants Scotland to leave the Union).

although i love how our Conservative Party is MORE LIBERAL then your Democrat party, our Conservatives are trying to Legalize Same-Sex Marriage its the only thing we needed too.

i know you love to argue with the Republicans but Swimmerguy, i don't want ya to be Killt, mate

swimmerguy's picture

Well I know

part of the reason that more things get done in the UK is that the ruling coalition basically runs the government, while the opposition parties just have to glare at them and campaign for next election.

In US Congress, there are all sorts of weird devices for the minority to thwart the majority, like the filibuster, which means if you have at least 34 seats in the 100 seat senate, you can basically prevent any bill you want.

There are a huge number of things you can do with just a third of the Senate or House, even if you have less than half, which means that most bills require at least some support from both parties, which never happens.
Which is why we never pass any bills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5ghXdq6Z0&safe_search=on

Tycoondashkid's picture

god thats funny XD

the coalition running Britain XD, they can't rule squat

they are begging Scotland to stay BEGGING, they've Screwed the Union, nobody even wanted them, theres been tons of strikes since they have come into power, BTW bet you never thought Conservatives and Liberals would attempt to co-rule a nation

Englands Ruled by Jackasses
Wales is ruled by a Ersehole
N. Ireland is on its own
and Scotlands Ruled by Nationalists and Patriots

i mean the Scotchi Iskles are much more powerful than they seem and we seem to have the upperhand over England now, we posses the Oil, Power, Coal, Gases and Gold Englands got squat without us, even the British Artic is coming with us

elph's picture

swimmerguy + kilt?

Now... that'd be something to look forward to! :)

"i don't want ya to be Killt, mate"

You don't want to see him in a kilt... or, more likely, not killed?

Of course, we're all with you if the latter. But the first option would be a sight to behold! You arrange it?

jeff's picture

Hmm...

I'm still amazed he's swimmerguy and we never even got a speedo pic. A kilt is definitely going in the wrong direction. ;-)

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

Tycoondashkid's picture

Actually Jeff

Traditionally you were nothing under a Kilt, so maybe someone falls over and "accidently" takes a photo ;)

jeff's picture

Well...

swimmerguy in speedo = legal
swimmerguy naked = illegal

To be clear, though, I'm not angling for either. I'm more than content just seeing him develop as an interesting person on Oasis. ;-)

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

Tycoondashkid's picture

umm

Walked down any street in a Kilt is more legal than walking down the street in a speedo, see Jeff Kilrs cover everything from waidt to knee and cannot be blown by the wind unless its like hurricane gail winds

and your knot naked, your wearing a Kilt silly

jeff's picture

I get all that...

But you said you wanted someone to take a picture of swimmerguy with his kilt askew. The person who would see that accidental nudity is fine. The person who would distribute such a photo would technically be breaking the law.

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

Tycoondashkid's picture

im not saying i want that

but that it would be humourus, LOL, you have never been to Scotland have you? its fine if they are in a Kilt, thats actually what people say, if you streak JAIL, if you lift your kilt to reveal your Bollocks or Erse you don't get any trouble, EVEN IF the person is under-age and distributed (as long as it isn't used as child porn that is) its a Scottish thing, we like public nudity

jeff's picture

Well...

The US is crazy about that. If I had a naked picture of myself at 16, I would be in possession of child pornography.

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

Tycoondashkid's picture

lol, America

if i would have naked pictures of all the underage people in my classes i would not be in trouble at all

i doubt you'd be in trouble for have a picture of yourself

16? thats borderline legal in the UK

jeff's picture

In the US...

18 is the legal age.

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

Tycoondashkid's picture

America

Come join us in the 21st century

i heard the drinking and smoking age is 21, because of brain development even though modern science has disproven that

jeff's picture

Well...

Drinking is 21, but smoking is 18-19.

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

Tycoondashkid's picture

oh America

i wonder why America claims to be the best when its standards aren't considered to be in the top 10

jeff's picture

Err...

What top ten list ranks based on child porn, drinking, and smoking laws?! ;-)

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

Tycoondashkid's picture

ha

its a all round Ranking system, Britain's in it (9th but does state the only Reason its higher is Scotland's Superiority over England in several categories)

its the Nordic Nations that dominate the list though if memory serves me Americas all the way down in the mid 30's

Tycoondashkid's picture

lol i meant Killed

But nowcthat you mention it...

stillgotlegs's picture

LOL lib dems are failing

LOL lib dems are failing everywhere, it's hilarious. Assholes.
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“Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?”

Tycoondashkid's picture

they're just

failing in the rain

elph's picture

Tyc & Jeff...

I think you two have co-opted a perfectly good thread... :) :(

jeff's picture

Nah...

Oasis is very tangent-friendly. Plus, we're not stopping people from posting new on-topic comments.

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

jeff's picture

Wait a second...

You might want to scroll up and remind yourself who introduced the swimmerguy in a kilt concept, which "corrupted" the thread.

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"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)

elph's picture

Note my edit...

"corrupt" was my error that lasted for less than a minute; what I meant was as it now stands: "co-opted."

Whatever... still think swimmerguy in kilts* would be a neat idea!

*Tycoondashkid: Should that be kilts or kilt?

Tycoondashkid's picture

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kilt is Singular and Plural, so one Kilt and Many Kilt

Sam2000's picture

Sweet Rush song!!!!

I have this cd, and it's one of my favorite Rush albums!!!

Thanks for posting this!

Sam : ))