Oasis: Next Steps?

This isn't an announcement, just the start of a discussion. No decisions have been made and everything can change yet.

But the gist is that I'm thinking of shutting Oasis down on Dec. 1, 2015, exactly 20 years from when I started it. For the skimmers, that is in two years, not two months from now.

It is nearly impossible to chart how the world for LGBT youth has changed in that time, but my feeling is that those changes have sort of removed the need for a site like Oasis.

The site has always promoted writing and peer support as its two main concepts, but now there are so many outlets for both.

Between Facebook, Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram, and whatever one is supposed to do on Pinterest, it has never been easier to find other people your age to talk to, explore very niche communities within the larger LGBT world, etc.

Most importantly, the acceptance of LGBT people has sort of removed a large chunk of our target audience.

People used to come on for months or years, finally come out to friends, family, or whomever, and then disappear into their openly gay lives. That was a fine plan.

But now, there is far less friction for many people from realizing they are gay, to accepting it, to coming out, that we have sort of lost the churn of members that transitional period provided. It used to be that a busy night on Oasis would get 30+ posts in a night, and not little Twitterish updates, but long journaly things about how someone's day went, and after people wrote, they would stick around, comment on a few things.

And, I think that community was sort of the least bothered people when it came to their sexuality. With or without Oasis, they were on the right path, and would have sorted it out, they just provided a great body count for the site, and also made it more interactive. And that isn't to say we still don't have people on this path who use the site today, there are just way less in total. With less people comes less interactivity, less interactivity means people come to the site less in general (since nothing is likely to have changed yet since their last visit), and that sort of dictates how new users interpret the site, as well.

I think some of that is not keeping up with the technology. The big scrolling wall of the front page that most people see as the site, rather than putting more focus on user accounts and profiles and giving you more power to make it your own. Some of that is me, some is a lack of access to update the site for a few years, etc., but this is the flip side of the larger question: Is there a need for this now that isn't being met elsewhere?

The other problem I have with the site is that the reduced number of users, and the lack of interactivity of the users, has surfaced people who have bigger problems than coming out or accepting themselves. There is drug use, cutting, depression, and all of these real concerns, but are we doing an actual service to people who need to sort out these issues if there are few active users? Not to mention, the more specialized the issue, the less likely the advice we all have is relevant. I can empathize with drug use, but I'm a lightweight, non-addicted, generally sober person. I can empathize with a cutter, but have nothing relatable to say to them. If someone is depressed, we tend to ask if they are being treated/taking their meds, but is that the same support they would get if they looked for a more specialized forum for LGBT people with depression?

There is also a rise in trans members, which makes sense as that issue has become larger in the past few years as far as visibility and acceptance. But there are tons of trans forums where trans members can talk to people their age and who in their same boat. Here, they can get support, but do they get enough? Are they getting people with experience and knowledge rather than good intentions? Is that enough?

The other side of the debate is that it is impossible to judge the effectiveness of the site because it hasn't been updated or tried to be visible in a long time. I now have the ability to update the site, although visibility is usually about book reviews, music reviews, concert reviews, interviews, etc., which then sort of go out and help people find us. And I don't have a lot of time or desire for those. And we've proven time and again, that no one is that interested in doing it either.

If Oasis was more of a traditional social network, where the scrolling wall was just a portal to highly-customizable individual pages, where swimmerguy could post photos of his recent hikes, and our singers were posting YouTube clips, and sharing songs, would people feel more engaged with the site in general, stay longer, and build its ranks back up?

This does bring us to the other issue, which is that I'm 45, I've been doing this for 18 years, and I'm not the best person to determine what some 12-year-old who thinks he might be gay wants, and what a 16-year-old who is out at home and school needs, etc., etc.

So, for this to work, we need to come up with a plan of attack. I know the technology side enough to know how to contextualize things we want with what we can do within our content management system and budgeting.

If you are new here, how did you find us? What keeps you coming back? What do you wish you could do? What are you getting here that you can't get anywhere else?

To the regulars, what would make it better? What would make you check here every day? What would make you tell other LGBT friends about the site?

To the fencesitters (not the bisexuals! I mean people on the verge of debating whether to leave the site), what keeps you coming back here? What might make you stay? What is making you think of leaving?

I don't want to make this sound like a random decision. I've been running this site for nearly half of my life, so it will feel very strange for it to be gone. I'm not certain I want it gone, either. But it does have to change to stay... if it should stay, which is the big question.

Thoughts? Questions?

Again, nothing is decided, so share your opinions, feedback, answers to my questions, and we'll see where this leads us all.

One thing, if the site does go down, I will make sure we add an export functionality long before that time, so people can export all of their writings. After that, there is the question if the site just sits here as an artifact, or simply disappears...

Time will tell...

Comments

lordmomofenixed's picture

in my opinion...

you are absolutely correct. There is little need for a site like this. The purpose it once served is no longer as useful.

But, Oasis helped me out back in the dark days of high school. So, it will be sad to see it end. I cant even begin to explain how important finding this site was to me. However, giving Oasis a noble end is quite fitting.

a psychotic pencilist, moe

jeff's picture

Yeah...

There's no good way to end it, really. Most sites just stop being used... or disappear without notice.

I'm glad it helped as many people as it did! ;-)

But we'll let more people weigh in, of course...

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

anarchist's picture

This is unfortunate news.

I guess I'll save all my dream journals and transition to purely offline ways of recording them. I still have to say that it would be incredibly unhappy. This place really feels like part of my past, and it'll be sad seeing the only reminder that any of it existed disappear. If only there were some way to end the site while still preserving all of the past posts on it, so the information will at least still be around in the future.

jeff's picture

Well...

As I said, there is no news. Yet.

And, we would definitely put in a feature to export all existing content for users. And the site could just become a read-only archive and stay here forever.

Assuming the site goes away, at all. Nothing is decided.

Yet.
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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

adrian's picture

this is not going to be us simply turning off a switch

we will most likely turn off the ability to create new content, but allow you some way of getting at -or deleting- all your old content.

This site will still be here as it was, but in a lessened 'archived' state.

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radiosilence95's picture

It would be a shame to see

It would be a shame to see the site go. It was a huge source of support and a safe place for discussion for me for a couple years. But it is a valid point that a site like this is becoming increasingly obsolete in the times in which we live.

I would love to be able to access all of my journals, so if this site is going to become inactive I would appreciate a method of saving those.

The way I see it, the only way of keeping this site relevant would be to change its goals and the way it functions. I think that a site just for support for gay youth isn't as necessary as it once was, so if Oasis maybe became less about that and more about simply gay people getting to know other gay people? Maybe not exactly a dating site per se, but just a way for LGBT youth to socialize and have open discussions about stuff?

I mean, the reason I come back here, despite having worked through any coming out/self-acceptance issues, is because this is one of the few outlets I have for talking to people within the gay community.

That's one way I see of drawing more people in. Also I don't know how cost-effective this would be, but perhaps advertising would be another way of drawing more people in?

I'm not sure how much effort (and money and time) you're willing to put into boosting this site's traffic, or if that's even the goal here, or if shutting down Oasis is just going to be an inevitability. I'd hate to see it go, like I said, but if that's what needs to be done, what can we do but appreciate what this site has done for us and those who have left?

jeff's picture

So...

For the cost side of things, if we were to update the site, I'd probably use some crowdsourcing to raise the money.

The site has never been good as far as advertising, since our audience typically doesn't have credit cards or a lot of disposable income. Even the reviews I do have sometimes included follow-up comments that referenced people finding the stuff through pirated channels, which I edit out, hehe, lest the publishers and such stop sending thing to us. If the site aged up a bit and retained more users, then advertising might matter.

The costs would be more about the redesign, though. The cost of running the site at present are minimal, AFAIK. Adrian currently pays it, but I think it's $5-10 a month?

There is a 2+ year window to work in here, so it could still find some new path to keep it going. That's why I posted this.

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

elph's picture

I think it's very likely...

that many gay youth of high school age who are members of their schools' GSAs are totally unaware of what Oasis could offer them...

Would it not be possible for information be sent to all GSAs (possibly in the form of a poster) letting the membership become aware of the great potential that Oasis makes freely available to them?

If such an undertaking is undertaken... with an attractive and informative poster, I, for one, would be happy to contribute to the expense.

jeff's picture

Two things...

I'm not sure a poster would work, since most GSAs just meet in a random classroom AFAIK, so there isn't any permanent place to hang such a thing... Also, once you're at a school with a GSA, you're already ahead of the game socially.

Beyond that, from a legal standpoint, we currently get around a few laws by not directly trying to contact/reach young people. I know we can't e-mail anyone under 13, or even allow them to create accounts, legally. We specifically don't ask for an age when applying and do no outbound marketing to specifically skirt around that law. The law is about doing outbound marketing to people under 13, and making them indicate they are over 13 means you can contact them, so contact is the main issue. If I'm sending stuff to schools, I do fear we're positioning ourselves poorly from a legal perspective, and a site without a lawyer contacting gay minors en masse with no background checks, no vetting process... yeah, once you start down that path, it seems to implode for me.

That also seems like it is putting us on a path to become a non-profit on a GLSEN/Trevor/Matthew Shepard level, complying with all laws, and making us way more official. So, even if it results in a larger user base, it makes this into a far more proper/official site.

Plus, GSAs are still not widely accepted, so I don't want to be purposefully going into that realm as saying "Hey, youngin's, come over here! We can help you feel OK about being LGBT!" in Tea Party country. We could gain as many right-wing lunatics e-mailing me as new members, which is a bad trade.

We need to be doing something or offering something where word of mouth on social networks increases and people are linking to us and telling others to check it out. That seems a safer route, not to mention feels more organic and indicative that we are doing something of value. Plus, until we HAVE a larger audience, there's still a disconnect.

I do want to avoid some Trevor/GLSEN/MatthewsPlace route. I would have done back in the day if I was interested in that angle (hell, I coded the first Trevor Project website and served the test from the Oasis web servers for them).

The issue we have now is that we're an anti-word of mouth site. Our members often share their innermost thoughts, talk about the people they have crushes on in school, and all of the stuff they wouldn't put on display on Facebook. Even when a member here meets someone else gay at their school, most of the time they wouldn't tell them to visit here, since that would mean censoring what they write. So, there is also that built-in dilemma.

Not an easy puzzle... ;-)

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

anarchist's picture

Why end the site at all, then?

If the cost is so negligible, what's the point in shitting the site down?

jeff's picture

Well...

Without the community element, it becomes the equivalent of firing up Word and saving a file to your hard drive. If barely anyone is reading or commenting, it becomes questionable what benefit there is posting it on a website.

Personally, though, in the last few weeks, we had two users talking about suicide and depression, and I really don't want to run a site where people reach out looking for a lifeline, and it is (let's see) 50+ hours and 8+ hours, respectively before they get their first response. That's just a bad scene waiting to happen. A support site where people reach out needs to offer some hope that someone might reach back, and we're not doing that at present.

Without the right number of users, it seems irresponsible to keep the site running with stakes like that. I'd rather have people know to go elsewhere, where they might get to engage with someone in real time.

Not that we've ever or would ever guarantee such a thing (We can leave that to the Trevor Project), but those numbers are pretty dismal and concerning.

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

swimmerguy's picture

I remember

fifth grade human development, where they first told us about semen and vaginas and all of that juju.
They said, rather ambiguously, that the semen fertilizes the egg inside of the woman, and a baby is thus born. I remember when the bombshell went off in my head, I spent a lot of time thinking about this, if semen comes from the penis and the semen makes babies in the vagina, then that means...
From that earthshattering moment I realized what all that vague shit about "sex" was about, and I started learning to masturbate. But there was a weird thing, whenever I would try to masturbate I would think of girls and it wouldn't work. I don't know what first made me think of guys, but oh my God when I did, it changed everything.
And yet somehow, you know, everything told me boys were supposed to like girls, and I thought I did, for some reason I just needed to think of guys when I masturbated.
Despite this denial though, I realized deep inside something wasn't right, I remember at times thinking to myself the monumental task of telling people about this? It would never happen!

Due to a hugely restrictive parental block on my computer, I searched on my parents computer for help. First, I found porn.
But then I found a site, outproud.org, and I looked through it, and I felt so comforted, I remember, there were people like me! I wasn't alone, other people had even told other people about these feelings, and there was nothing wrong with me!
I looked through the site a few times, more for comfort than actual information, I don't even remember really any of what was on it.
One time, very soon after I first visited it, I went back and it was gone. Devastated. I no longer had my comfort site.
But on some off-chance I remembered a resource site they had listed, some weird site called oasisjournals.com.
I joined immediately.

And the rest, as they say, is history. Oasis supported me through my last few girlfriends, and hasn't quite yet supported me into my first real boyfriend yet (first sexual experience with a boy, maybe), but, if it is as I hope and I do get one soon (still working on that), I'll get there.

This site has a healthy dose of nostalgia for me. I mean, I grew up in 2000's Washington, hardly Mauritania, but even then I didn't get many of the right messages in my early youth.
Human growth and development and, well, everything else told me that boys liked girls and vice versa, not to mention childhood cruelty with the uses of words like "gay" and "dyke". (What's that mean? Gay? I remember asking my brother the first time I ever heard the world, when he was insulting me It's a guy who likes other guys. he said. What?! Why would they do that? I wondered. This shocking experience followed me around for a long time)
So even in a world of no huge amount of homophobia there was still tons of straight bias and homo-invisibility, and this had me terrified something was wrong with me, as I'm sure even still happens to early middle school kids in 2010's Washington.

That said, as much as this site helped me and really chilled me out about gay things as in so many other arenas, could another site do it at least as well? Outproud was a godsend for me as far as I was concerned, and not cause it was any good but because it was just gay and so was I.
I really do like this site and its format. I only ever joined one other gay site, Queer Attitude, and there they mandated proper grammar and all of that, what you could post, and even a specific format for the title of your opening post.
When I skimmed through all those rules (cause I've really never had much of a problem with grammar in writing) I saw later that they actually changed the format of my first journal, including the title and order of discussion, without asking me.
I never went back, and I wouldn't now. That community was much bigger but this one is super chill.

Maybe what you should do is just not make it a lgbt focused website, just an lgbt friendly one. I love the chillness and the community of this site as a place for people to grow up, but I agree, it's getting a lot less traffic and that's probably because lgbt people are just getting less clannish.
Having secured more rights and acceptance in the mainstream, we no longer have to look only among ourselves for support, even if only online, but we can support ourselves and vice versa with straight friends all around in the real world.
Certainly, teenager problems are never over, even if lgbt problems aren't as big a deal as they used to be. Much of the value this site had for me was how it helped me grow in other ways.

Still, at the same time, you can do what you want. I probably will have many gaps and maybe even fizzling out before 2015.

jeff's picture

Hmm...

You are aware that Outproud was started by one of my friends, and that technically I own that domain now? If you go to outproud.org, transproud.org, or queeramerica.com (all of the OutProud sites), you end up here.

There was a brief lag before that happened, when he took his site down (as his main feature was the Queer America list, where you could enter your ZIP code and find local resources). Once Google showed up, that became less of a challenge for people.

Plus, the "forums" link on outproud always came here, I believe.

One has to imagine that if this site only remains through 2015, we'll get you through your first bf. ;-)

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

elph's picture

Let's hope!

And... I'm pleased to see the adjective "first". The implication being that there'll very likely be more than one bf before bells truly ring out loudly! :)

Bosemaster42's picture

I agree,

There are certainly more resources for LGBT people than ever before and I did notice a major drop in traffic during the summer vacation months, however, I think it's still a very viable resource, especially for younger people that are still questioning. I arrived at this site a little less than two years ago while searching for writing web sites. Of course, by Jeff's standards, I'm probably over the hill. Or is that " A day late and a dollar short"? Anyway, after reading several journal posts, I realized the site was geared toward younger LGBT individuals and wasn't real sure if I belonged.
I certainly didn't wish to creep anyone out, however, I was accepted. I try to be as helpful as possible with regard to people struggling with their sexuality or simply with whatever may be bothering them at the time. I know all too well the struggle of acceptance. My biggest obstacle regarding my own sexuality, was accepting myself as being gay. While still in high school, which seems like a long time ago, I was in hiding. I refused to admit to myself I was gay, even though my thoughts, desires, and fantasies were all pointing in that direction. We had a gay club in my high school, but I never would have stepped foot in there. The perception(my own) of anyone finding out I was gay was too scary. I was running around with straight guys, playing sports and yeah, I even tried to be hetero by dating a couple of girls. That was when I realized the truth. Girls did nothing for me or my libido. I smoked a lot of weed back then. Hey, it helped me perpetuate the lie and I really didn't enjoy alcohol.
After making me feel silly, Jeff and others made me realize I was suffering from internalized homophobia. I was also finally able to come out to my mother and she was good with it. I think she knew or at least suspected this was true considering I wasn't exactly bringing girls home for her to meet. I do regret not telling my father before he died, but I wasn't ready and why spring this on someone diagnosed with terminal cancer. I visited his gravesite recently(something I never do with regularity) and maybe his spirit heard me, but most likely not.
I'm not exactly a technology whiz, but there must be a way to get word out to people who may need a sympathetic ear and a push in the right direction similar to how this site operates now. I for one, believe there are plenty of people, like myself, who need a forum like this, so I would vote for Oasis to stick around, but ultimately, it's Jeff's decision. He's been doing this for quite a long time and deserves a ton of credit for helping lots of young people with their struggles. I apologize for being long-winded.

jeff's picture

Well...

It's nearly always internalized homophobia for most, isn't it?! ;-)

Honestly, the site has mainly just been here, and people find it. It's a niche site but just a niche I happen to like, where writing is the main form of communication. There's no chat. No pictures. And, that was all on purpose, since chat and pictures tend to sexualize a site, especially an unmonitored one.

When I look at what are considered the gay youth sites, as far as Google is concerned, it's pretty boring. Trevor Project is useful, but Hollywood-based, so they get a ton of attention and seemingly way more money than necessary to run a 24 hour hotline. Matthew's Place still seems like a forum created by older people for kids, despite their claims of being bi and for LGBT youth.

Honestly, it just seems too easy to be niche now. If you're a gay brony who likes Doctor Who, you can probably find a message board for that. Plus, people specialize more, so a girl will likely find a lesbian forum first and not us. I think there's merit in sort of not separating out the Gs from the Ls from the Bs from the Ts. But, to be fair, that's kind of what happens in real life anyway.

The reason for this post, though, was that I'm too old to know how to find closeted and questioning youth online or, for that matter, how current youth tend to find things like this.

Google used to drive more traffic to us, but now there's so many sites vomiting out nonsense content, it's hard to stay relevant there. A Google search for "I don't want to be gay" used to have us on the first page. Now it's a lot of Yahoo Answers and ex-gay sites, since they refresh their content more often. (that content on here is an old forum post, so not a lot of new posts). I don't know how many pages in you'd have to go to find us on "gay youth sites" at this point. We used to be the #2 or #3 site, back in the day (I just gave up after the first four pages).

The very nature of our site makes our audience difficult to find, since this was often the first place people typed that they are gay. So, they need to find us...

I just don't know how to find closeted, questioning middle school boys. Which, I suppose, is a good thing for a 45 year old man. ;-)

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

Dragonfighter's picture

As far as Google goes...

For the record, I know nothing about advertising, nor technology, so I'm not entirely sure if this is logical, but perhaps among the links at the top, you could add a FAQ section? Basically, a section that lists topics that seem to come up a lot, but instead of simply listing answers like most FAQ's, perhaps a format similar to forums, with members constantly adding new responses. These would be less likely to become out dated than forums or journals because they would always be on the front page of the site. Plus, it would improve upon the site in general, since at this point one must dig through old journal entries to find relevant information to common questions. Not sure if that makes sense...

jeff's picture

I think...

that over the years, Google just changed how it ranks and classifies things, so it isn't as easy to manipulate the rankings. Technically, our front page updates with different journals all the time, so if it was just about that aspect, we'd already be covered. And Google scans us all the time (a lot of the "guests" people address as though they are afraid to sign up are really just Google, Bing, etc.)

As for the FAQ, we used to not offer much in the way of resources, since OutProud was our sister site, so they did the resources, we did the peer support, so that was intentionally split between the two. And it seems to be our forte. I think we want to figure out a way to get more people engaged with one another, with journals, comments, etc.

Resources are more "come here, read, leave."
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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

lonewolf678's picture

Let's see...

1. To the regulars, what would make it better?
Not sure what could make it better.

2. What would make you check here every day?
What makes me check here everyday (now) is what people have to say about this place. But what did before was seeing what was going on with some, offering advice or little bits of wisdom.

3. What would make you tell other LGBT friends about the site?
Eh, no LGBT friends outside here, but everyone uses Facebook to death for anything anyway.

This sounds pretty pessimistic now that I actually type it out.
._.

Things have significantly changed since this websites inception, one can simply compare the 1990's and 2010's and see that many things have improved for LGBT people in the USA. This website did indeed serve it's purpose for a long time and everyone thanks you for that Jeff. I don't think there's anything I can say that's significant to any of this.

Really wish I did have something significant to say, sorry there Jeff.

jeff's picture

No worries...

I do fear our uniqueness makes us hard to scale. People write things here they wouldn't say on Facebook. About their crushes and everything else. So, there is sort of a built-in anti-social element to the site.

No one wants to write a post about the new guy they have a crush on in high school here, and go share it with their classmates on Facebook. And, even if they did, that wouldn't net us a ton of new gay users.

Plus, if you try and draw attention to the site online, you can't guarantee what attention that will be. One former Oasis member runs a site for LGBT spiritual issues and such, and some hacker took his whole site offline because they didn't like the idea, etc.

We get very little religious nuts trying to save ya'll, and that is also because we stay off the radar. It's probably been years since I got a good "STAY AWAY FROM MY SON" e-mail, although I always did enjoy those.

So, our being sort of a hidden, off-the-grid site is sort of a selling point, one that is counter-intuitive to promote directly, heh.

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

elph's picture

That's both our virtue...

and our bane:

"So, our being sort of a hidden, off-the-grid site is sort of a selling point, one that is counter-intuitive to promote directly..."

Let's hope there are some good minds out there with a solution...

Oasis is a true gem... seeing its demise would be tragic...

jeff's picture

Well...

The site's helped thousands of people, and I think a lot of the indifference is because of greater acceptance, tolerance, visibility and support.

Nothing tragic about any aspect of it, really. Obsolescence is not a bad thing in this case.

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

elph's picture

OK... "tragic" was likely hyperbole.

"Sad" would better reflect my feelings...

jeff's picture

Update...

I posted this as a comment on Uncertain's journal, but just to be safe, I wanted to get this message across on here, as I may not have been as clear about this earlier:

As for Oasis, I should reinforce that the salvation of this site will be a bottom-up approach, since you all are closer in age to the demographic we need to target. So, people like you are far more likely to come up with how to save this place than me. Figuring out what a website would have to do to attract my attention when I was a teenager defies logic, since there was no web then, I'm in my 40s now, and on and on.

So, to be clear, there is unlikely going to be any epiphany on my end, so it's really up to the members to have that breakthrough and filter it up. So, get cracking!

We have time to test things from now until Dec. 1, 2015. I wouldn't have picked that far-off of a date if my true intention was to just dramatically end the site. I could do that on a much-quicker timeframe with less input.

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

Perhaps We Should Leave's picture

Hmm...

I'd be sad to see the place go. I'll see what I can do to perhaps help traffic come through... introduce some folks who may need community to this site.

The format of this site seems more helpful to me than other forums, and is certainly much more welcoming than others. But that may just be me.

In any case... I'll see what I can do.

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The woods are lovely, dark, and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
and miles to go before I sleep,
and miles to go before I sleep.

elph's picture

You are quite correct...

The current Oasis format as it has been allowed to naturally evolve leaves little room for substantial improvement!

And... I'm confident that if lurkers would actually join and share their experiences here in total safety (I continue to believe that out of all contenders, none other matches Oasis in this category), its dynamics and appeal can only be enhanced!

anarchist's picture

I know how to save the site!

We're getting the band back together!

elph's picture

Band?

What band?

lonewolf678's picture

Eh...

I'm as clueless as you are.

Perhaps We Should Leave's picture

Blues Brothers...

Jeez, Elphy. You really need to read up.

Or watch up.

Whatever.

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The woods are lovely, dark, and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
and miles to go before I sleep,
and miles to go before I sleep.

jeff's picture

Yup.

We're on a mission from God.

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"You don't know you're beautiful." - Harry Styles

MaddieJoy's picture

Not sure if I'm relevant anymore

but I would like to at least be able to come back and see my old posts here.
Personally I stopped needing Oasis when I joined QSA, but a lot of kids don't have QSAs, so maybe you could kind of make it centre around kids in the Bible Belt & such who don't have access to support? It seems to me they're the ones that really need this place right now, though many of us in the more liberal areas don't.

"Omar solas--good news has no clothes."
--Neelix